---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/19/23: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:21 AM - Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 (JonathanMilbank) 2. 11:17 AM - Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 (Matt Dovey) 3. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 (Alan Burrill) 4. 02:21 PM - Europa fuel sight guage shorter route up seat back (JonathanMilbank) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:17 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 From: "JonathanMilbank" Jim, Many thanks for your words of wisdom. As you're probably aware, in the UK we seem to enjoy less freedom and are subject to detailed annual permit renewal inspections. So if my inspector says "Jump!" then I reply "How high Sir?" At last year's inspection he told me that he would like me to replace the sight gauge tubing before the next inspection, preferably using the TYGON which seemingly is being used by several UK aircraft types. I'll have to keep my fingers crossed, hoping that it lasts as long as what is currently installed and still in quite good condition after 26 years. Unfortunately the old tubing was supplied by Europa as part of the build kit, with no way now of knowing who manufactured it. The picture of what I've already ordered shows fairly clear tubing without a hint of yellow. It'll be interesting to see what comes out of the package. My other hope is that the formulation of US mogas may be a little different from the UK. For one thing, we can still buy mogas at certain fuel stations with zero ethanol in it, which is what I always use. Jonathan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510246#510246 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:30 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 From: "Matt Dovey" Jonathan you could find another inspector. Thats what happens when I tell LAA members something they dont like at permit time. Especially if it involves them spending money or their aircraft maybe grounded. Safety usually comes a poor third. Not sure why after all this time your inspector is quoting MPD 1998-019 R1. Unless he's new to you. Its been around since 1998 and should be carried out every permit renewal inspection. I carry it out on any aircraft it am carrying out a Permit renewal inspection on. I inspect all flexible lines and hose for deterioration. Not just fuel lines. I have only found out about Tygon hose in the last week. I've only ever used standard commercially available fuel hose. I change it on-condition. Because its cheap it gets changed often as needed and not every 26 years. If I was going your inspection I would suggest that to you. Unless you really want Tygon hose at that is. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510250#510250 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:59 AM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa Classic sight gauge tubing MPD: 1998-019 R1 Is this an alternative to the Tygon Tube we are all talking about? Alan Sent from my iPad > On 19 Feb 2023, at 19:18, Matt Dovey wrote: > l.co.uk> > > Jonathan you could find another inspector. Thats what happens when I tell L AA members something they dont like at permit time. Especially if it involve s them spending money or their aircraft maybe grounded. Safety usually comes a poor third. Not sure why after all this time your inspector is quoting MP D 1998-019 R1. Unless he's new to you. Its been around since 1998 and should be carried out every permit renewal inspection. I carry it out on any aircr aft it am carrying out a Permit renewal inspection on. I inspect all flexibl e lines and hose for deterioration. Not just fuel lines. > I have only found out about Tygon hose in the last week. I've only ever us ed standard commercially available fuel hose. I change it on-condition. Beca use its cheap it gets changed often as needed and not every 26 years. If I w as going your inspection I would suggest that to you. Unless you really want Tygon hose at =C2=A3=C2=A3=C2=A3 that is. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510250#510250 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:42 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Europa fuel sight guage shorter route up seat back From: "JonathanMilbank" After looking through documents available at The Europa Club, LAA Europa TADS and my paper documents, I can't find anything giving Mod approval or instructions / diagrams on how to re-route the fuel sight guage from the tank outlet in the tunnel and up the seat back, which several Europas seem to have done. I'm considering doing this, but need to have some documentary support to show my inspector. Please help. Thank you. 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