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Wed 03/15/23


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 02:26 AM - Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Area-51)
     2. 03:14 AM - Re: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Pete Zut)
     3. 03:16 AM - Re: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Pete Zut)
     4. 11:19 AM - Re: October 2022 Zoom Episode 1 (rparigoris)
     5. 04:11 PM - Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Area-51)
     6. 04:27 PM - Re: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Pete)
     7. 05:22 PM - Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Area-51)
     8. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Pete)
     9. 06:17 PM - Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!! (Area-51)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:26:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    Stage one of "shut that noise up" completed. Applied a dense OEM sound absorbing material made by Diver Consolidated Industries; also acts as a secondary low temp heat shield... Not for the novice. It uses a magic 3M adhesive back. You get one chance sticking it down, and it cannot be removed to reposition... then give it a good going over with a roller; done... has added 1kg up from 560g to the plenum. The only way carbi noise is getting out of there now is through the air filter. Will try it out tomorrow and listen if Stage 2 baffles are still required. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510412#510412 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/01bd6b77_0c48_4675_a0a9_2c45bb3f83bf_110.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/a258bea6_c367_4151_89fc_1cbcb0d85510_447.jpeg http://forums.matronics.com//files/f01ce90b_73f6_4fa1_9e56_005555a0b69b_100.jpeg


    Message 2


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    Time: 03:14:28 AM PST US
    From: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    an added risk of ingestion. worth it? Cheers, PeteZ On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:33=AFAM Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmail. com> wrote: > goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com> > > Stage one of "shut that noise up" completed. > > Applied a dense OEM sound absorbing material made by Diver Consolidated > Industries; also acts as a secondary low temp heat shield... Not for the > novice. It uses a magic 3M adhesive back. You get one chance sticking it > down, and it cannot be removed to reposition... then give it a good going > over with a roller; done... has added 1kg up from 560g to the plenum. > > The only way carbi noise is getting out of there now is through the air > filter. > > Will try it out tomorrow and listen if Stage 2 baffles are still required . > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510412#510412 > > > Attachments: > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/01bd6b77_0c48_4675_a0a9_2c45bb3f83bf_1 10.jpeg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/a258bea6_c367_4151_89fc_1cbcb0d85510_4 47.jpeg > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/f01ce90b_73f6_4fa1_9e56_005555a0b69b_1 00.jpeg > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


    Message 3


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    Time: 03:16:15 AM PST US
    From: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    oops..... didn't look at the pics - my bad. only on the outside.... please forgive me PeteZ On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 6:13=AFAM Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wro te: > an added risk of ingestion. > > worth it? > > Cheers, > PeteZ > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:33=AFAM Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmai l.com> > wrote: > >> goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com> >> >> Stage one of "shut that noise up" completed. >> >> Applied a dense OEM sound absorbing material made by Diver Consolidated >> Industries; also acts as a secondary low temp heat shield... Not for the >> novice. It uses a magic 3M adhesive back. You get one chance sticking it >> down, and it cannot be removed to reposition... then give it a good goin g >> over with a roller; done... has added 1kg up from 560g to the plenum. >> >> The only way carbi noise is getting out of there now is through the air >> filter. >> >> Will try it out tomorrow and listen if Stage 2 baffles are still require d. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510412#510412 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/01bd6b77_0c48_4675_a0a9_2c45bb3f83bf_ 110.jpeg >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/a258bea6_c367_4151_89fc_1cbcb0d85510_ 447.jpeg >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/f01ce90b_73f6_4fa1_9e56_005555a0b69b_ 100.jpeg >> >> >> =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 11:19:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: October 2022 Zoom Episode 1
    From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@hotmail.com>
    Hi Group Here's links to March 2023 Zoom Episode 5 about Fuel Sender Operation and Repair: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ah1S270Nwg9Vgfx9spnrAw9ZaL5m7w?e=12nuwO For whatever reason, Matronics always cuts off some of the hyper-link when I post links. Just copy the entire link and paste into URL of browser. ** If buffering occurs when viewing mp4 video, open the settings icon and reduce resolution. The settings icon is a gear with a hole in it located on bottom. Ron and Wayne Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510418#510418


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    Time: 04:11:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    Stage One of "shut that noise up" has been a flying success!!! Worth every one of the 1000g weight penalty; couldn't recommend it more. The mod has worked so well that noise canceling is no longer required.. in fact, its worse now flying with noise canceling than without... at WOT engine noise has gone from high pitched screaming hell to a dull drone... at cruise you could have a cockpit conversation without headphones; its just so much more relaxing and enjoyable... over the moon with the result... Weight & Balance has been affected by moving the CG more forward; with 10L fuel the cg crosses the forward boundary.. so i just have to t/o with 50L on board to balance out closer to center. Planning on adding a bit more aft weight so not too concerned. Will still apply Stage 2 internal baffles to shut things up even more... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510421#510421 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/41987b1f_3b7a_4d4e_9041_f862d99c8ffe_994.jpeg


    Message 6


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    Time: 04:27:51 PM PST US
    From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    Interesting. So you no longer hear the engine revs, but now only the significant hear whine and prop noises? > On Mar 15, 2023, at 7:18 PM, Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Stage One of "shut that noise up" has been a flying success!!! > > Worth every one of the 1000g weight penalty; couldn't recommend it more. > > The mod has worked so well that noise canceling is no longer required.. in fact, its worse now flying with noise canceling than without... at WOT engine noise has gone from high pitched screaming hell to a dull drone... at cruise you could have a cockpit conversation without headphones; its just so much more relaxing and enjoyable... over the moon with the result... > > Weight & Balance has been affected by moving the CG more forward; with 10L fuel the cg crosses the forward boundary.. so i just have to t/o with 50L on board to balance out closer to center. > > Planning on adding a bit more aft weight so not too concerned. > > Will still apply Stage 2 internal baffles to shut things up even more... > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510421#510421 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/41987b1f_3b7a_4d4e_9041_f862d99c8ffe_994.jpeg > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:22:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    Experience is now a low frequency drone from exhaust along with slight level of low frequency carburettor noise; so can still hear the engine and gearbox, its just not a high frequency or high volume level. At cruise the noise volume of engine and air over the canopy is about equal. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510423#510423


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    Time: 05:36:24 PM PST US
    From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    =EF=BB =9C At cruise the noise volume of engine and air over the canopy is ab out equal.=9D which is what i have with the stockish plenum, and softer lord moun ts fwiw. I wonder what id get if i wrapped my plenum too. PeteZ > On Mar 15, 2023, at 8:29 PM, Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com> wrote : @gmail.com> > > Experience is now a low frequency drone from exhaust along with slight lev el of low frequency carburettor noise; so can still hear the engine and gear box, its just not a high frequency or high volume level. > > At cruise the noise volume of engine and air over the canopy is about equa l. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510423#510423 > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


    Message 9


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    Time: 06:17:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: the Obsidian Files - So Much Noise!!!
    From: "Area-51" <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com>
    Peter, the material functions by absorbing specific high and low frequency waves of the audible spectrum; its material design purpose is for eliminating resonance drumming on automotive panels. The plenum box on 181 is very thin fibreglass, so its like a drum skin stock untreated. Everyone's ears will respond somewhat differently to sound waves, so results will be perceived differently. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510425#510425




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