---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/21/23: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:15 AM - Re: Re: Fw: Door latch shoot-bolt stop (Alan Burrill) 2. 02:05 AM - Re: Fw: Door latch shoot-bolt stop (JonathanMilbank) 3. 04:47 AM - Re: Fw: Door latch shoot-bolt stop (clivesutton) 4. 09:07 AM - Re: Re: Fw: Door latch shoot-bolt stop (Vince Goddard) 5. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: Fw: Door latch shoot-bolt stop (Vince Goddard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:15:10 AM PST US From: Alan Burrill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fwd: Door latch shoot-bolt stop I am a Europa Club Member and have just downloaded the STL files at no cost from the club website so I dont understand your comment; >>In reality a club member still has to purchase the STL 3D files for this mod, which I feel is a bit "off". << Alan Sent from my iPad > On 20 May 2023, at 09:17, JonathanMilbank wrote: > > > Yep, that's exactly how it broke and no doubt the same will happen again and again. The material thickness is too light. The LAA seems to have washed their hands of producing the items and handed it over to the Europa Club "for free". In reality a club member still has to purchase the STL 3D files for this mod, which I feel is a bit "off". Especially as the member also has the cost of the 3D printer and materials. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510827#510827 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:14 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fwd: Door latch shoot-bolt stop From: "JonathanMilbank" My friend has the 3D printer and I've forwarded the files to him. Like me, he discovered that parts of the files are greyed out and there's a purchase price displayed. So neither of us could open the files and I'll simply wait until someone offers shoot-bolt stops for sale. In the meantime Superglue and tape are holding things together. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510838#510838 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fwd: Door latch shoot-bolt stop From: "clivesutton" RE: PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2023 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Fwd: Door latch shoot-bolt stop Reply with quote My friend has the 3D printer and I've forwarded the files to him. Like me, he discovered that parts of the files are greyed out and there's a purchase price displayed. So neither of us could open the files and I'll simply wait until someone offers shoot-bolt stops for sale. In the meantime Superglue and tape are holding things together. Re: SM15833 as listed at: http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/Airworthiness/Europa/247_Europa%20SM15833.pdf and STL files located at: https://www.theeuropaclub.org/building/stl-files/shoot-bolt-stops Just to clarify on behalf of the Club, that the LAA have indeed donated the STL files to the Europa Club - to be offered to whoever wants to use them to print their own stops [at their own risk btw]. The specific use of 3D printed stops in plastic to satisfy the 'AD' is not mandated, and anyone can make/fashion their own alternative stops from any 'suitably resilient material' (which i personally take to mean wood or metal). I'm not aware that any aspect of the STL files sourced from the Europa Club link below are preventing their use. Indeed this the first time i have heard of such an issue. Perhaps someone who has already used them successfully can comment if they came across the same issue and who they overcame it? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=510839#510839 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:55 AM PST US From: Vince Goddard Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fwd: Door latch shoot-bolt stop I=99ve just built a small 3d printer and happy to print these for anyo ne not able to. I can do the in white ABS which is a bit better than PLA. Vince G-BWUP Sent from my iPhone > On 21 May 2023, at 09:20, Alan Burrill wrote: > k> > > I am a Europa Club Member and have just downloaded the STL files at no cos t from the club website so I don=99t understand your comment; > >>> In reality a club member still has to purchase the STL 3D files for this mod, which I feel is a bit "off". << > > Alan > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 20 May 2023, at 09:17, JonathanMilbank wrote: >> yahoo.co.uk> >> >> Yep, that's exactly how it broke and no doubt the same will happen again a nd again. The material thickness is too light. The LAA seems to have washed t heir hands of producing the items and handed it over to the Europa Club "for free". In reality a club member still has to purchase the STL 3D files for t his mod, which I feel is a bit "off". Especially as the member also has the c ost of the 3D printer and materials. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums. matronics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Fp%3D510827%23510827&data=05%7C01%7C%7C741e bc3c985d443e082f08db59d44057%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C63 8202540365315659%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzI iLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kp19yh3GJzZYwE%2FNNG bfUbqtjU0hyKZRsAS3CdEKWds%3D&reserved=0 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ========================== ========= F%2Fwww.matronics.com%2FNavigator%3FEuropa-List&data=05%7C01%7C%7C741ebc3c 985d443e082f08db59d44057%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638202 540365315659%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JEmjZOAhyojMFLUv5ScmjG5X r57xbkOQ7ZiYOzct1rU%3D&reserved=0 ========================== ========= F%2Fforums.matronics.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C741ebc3c985d443e082f08db59d4 4057%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638202540365315659%7CUnkno wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI 6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Yd8sLzvFtgupp9FnH2RXNbViG3B8w4H8lQNsiVV7Qnc% 3D&reserved=0 ========================== ========= F%2Fwiki.matronics.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7C741ebc3c985d443e082f08db59d440 57%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638202540365315659%7CUnknown %7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M n0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dlTf%2Bxl%2BByqlG9Cqmw4FlOkrT4CHZeb3RL6xL6V%2FJ qY%3D&reserved=0 ========================== ========= 2F%2Fmatronics.com%2Fcontribution&data=05%7C01%7C%7C741ebc3c985d443e082f08 db59d44057%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638202540365315659%7 CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=laz45lNnDj4pAvxgQofDj5O3ctHrdYrbV0sE3h V5ax0%3D&reserved=0 ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:06 PM PST US From: Vince Goddard Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fwd: Door latch shoot-bolt stop As I=99m still setting up my home built 3d printer I thought I would p rint a set of the shoot-bolt stops out to see how they came out. The white A BS+ I have used is a little more grainy than PLA but can be sanded and paint ed plus should be much stronger. Hear some shots of the print and finished i tems. If anyone wants these to try, I=99m happy to post FOC in the UK. The fore-fairing has 31% fill as my LAA ones are hollow and one cracked. I h ave replaced this one with a self printed one but will need to see how they s tand up. Vince G-BWUP Sent from my iPhone > On 21 May 2023, at 17:13, Vince Goddard wrote: > > =EF=BBI=99ve just built a small 3d printer and happy to print the se for anyone not able to. I can do the in white ABS which is a bit better t han PLA. > > Vince > G-BWUP > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On 21 May 2023, at 09:20, Alan Burrill wrote: >>> uk> >> >> I am a Europa Club Member and have just downloaded the STL files at no co st from the club website so I don=99t understand your comment; >> >>>> In reality a club member still has to purchase the STL 3D files for thi s mod, which I feel is a bit "off". << >> >> Alan >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 20 May 2023, at 09:17, JonathanMilbank wrote: >>> @yahoo.co.uk> >>> >>> Yep, that's exactly how it broke and no doubt the same will happen again and again. The material thickness is too light. The LAA seems to have washe d their hands of producing the items and handed it over to the Europa Club " for free". In reality a club member still has to purchase the STL 3D files f or this mod, which I feel is a bit "off". 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