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2. 04:21 AM - Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint (n7188u)
3. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint (Bud Yerly)
4. 07:04 AM - Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint (n7188u)
5. 07:06 AM - Re: Glass Cockpit For Sale - Used (Mike Christine Duane)
6. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | Glass Cockpit For Sale - Used |
Glass EFIS for sale; surplus to needs; no longer required.
"Rare" well used; as new condition; easily portable; fresh AAA batteries just installed.
A terrific upgrade for any aircraft requiring retrofit modern technology.
Fully programmable time date and alarm functions; inside outside air temperature
with "Big Number" font display. Slightly inaccurate but will make it across
Pacific or Indian Ocean no problem.
BluTac mounting and wiring harness included.
STC, Log Books missing; no yellow card.
Will consider swaps and reasonable offers.
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| Subject: | Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint |
Thank you Bud and Peter,
I cleaned the port yesterday and it is intact (shinny like when new) so for now
I just applied some high temp paste (bandaid) since I really want to fly a little
and I dont think the problem is serious enough to be causing immediate damage.
On the mean time will read Buds procedure for lapping and will prepare to do that
if the problem persists. I think lapping is indeed the best long term solution
of the port surface is not damaged.
And thanks for the gasket info Peter. I will keep it on file in case I need something
like that in the future.
I guess the main concern now is how to maintain the system with CKT gone but I
am fairly optimistic that we will find ways. And hopefully the Europa Club together
with Europa will find replacements for the most common serviceable items
like springs.
It is my understanding the CKT mufflers are quite popular in the light aircraft
world so hopefully either someone will take over that operation or parts will
be available to allow existing muffler repairs shops to service our systems.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint |
Chris:
Re:
1. CKT no longer in business!!! That is a shame. Shows you how much we
914 owners don=92t follow up on the latest suppliers. We are all getting
older and competition from =93Cheap Chinese is getting to be more than a nu
isance for suppliers, plus small airplane business is not a money maker, go
vernment regulations are a pain to work around unless you pay a politician,
so folks don=92t want to buy or continue these small plane supply business
es, hence our suppliers dry up.
2. On your comment: =93I just applied some high temp paste (bandaid) si
nce I really want to fly a little and I don=99t think the problem is
serious enough to be causing immediate damage.=94 The weather is crap
py now. Exhaust leaks are not minor in my opinion. I suggest you fix it,
as little problems become bigger problems. A little time now saves a lot l
ater on. (A stitch in time saves nine eh?)
Keep plugging away. You are making a very nice airplane even better.
Bud Yerly
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onics.com> On Behalf Of n7188u
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2024 7:21 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joi
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Thank you Bud and Peter,
I cleaned the port yesterday and it is intact (shinny like when new) so for
now I just applied some high temp paste (bandaid) since I really want to f
ly a little and I don=99t think the problem is serious enough to be c
ausing immediate damage.
On the mean time will read Buds procedure for lapping and will prepare to d
o that if the problem persists. I think lapping is indeed the best long ter
m solution of the port surface is not damaged.
And thanks for the gasket info Peter. I will keep it on file in case I need
something like that in the future.
I guess the main concern now is how to maintain the system with CKT gone bu
t I am fairly optimistic that we will find ways. And hopefully the Europa C
lub together with Europa will find replacements for the most common service
able items like springs.
It is my understanding the CKT mufflers are quite popular in the light airc
raft world so hopefully either someone will take over that operation or par
ts will be available to allow existing muffler repairs shops to service our
systems.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint |
Hi Bud,
Thanks for your reply.
First on the CKT thing yes it is very sad. But your comments about why are right
on. I am personally facing a similar situation as a product development Engineer
for a big medical device company were things are so business oriented that
its becoming more and more difficult for us Engineers to do an adequate job.
To the point I have decided to go into early retirement this year and find something
else to do. BTW, what is happening with Boeing is a good example of the
consequences of what I see at work every day.
Anyway, setting that aside lets hope someone picks up the CKT baton and provides
support to these great components.
Regarding my exhaust leak, rest assured I am not going to sit on this. I am not
the type to ignore issues, but I generally like to do my research and be prepared
before jumping into the fix. My plan is to read up on your procedure, get
what I need and do it. But this morning I was able to go for a short flight and
have some fun (spending 8 month grounded to paint the airplane requires some
compensation at the end :D )
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Glass Cockpit For Sale - Used |
=F0=9F=98=82=F0=9F=98=82=F0=9F=98=82 Now that=99s funny.=C2-
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On Sunday, January 7, 2024, 4:51 AM, Area-51 <goldsteinindustrial@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
Glass EFIS for sale; surplus to needs; no longer required.
"Rare" well used; as new condition; easily portable; fresh AAA batteries ju
st installed.
A terrific upgrade for any aircraft requiring retrofit modern technology.
Fully programmable time date and alarm functions; inside outside air temper
ature with "Big Number" font display. Slightly inaccurate but will make it
across Pacific or Indian Ocean no problem.
BluTac mounting and wiring harness included.
STC, Log Books missing; no yellow card.
Will consider swaps and reasonable offers.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513033#513033
Attachments:
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| Subject: | Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint |
Chris,
I have small 3D printers and use a CAD program and draw up and produce my items
for the shop, woodworking, home, and auto as the problem with engineers is we
think we can do it better.
Hence, I have stopped going to manufacturers, machine tool and die shops and sourcing
those folks to do some of the work. Hence they are all just giving up
and closing the doors as the competition for "one offs" is non existent and overseas
producers can do it on the cheap even for small production runs if you
supply an STL file or similar. (Of course they like your design as they now have
your idea and may be able to hack your design and sell it.) Heck, a printed
circuit board you design can be made for only a few bucks a piece by PCB Way,
and you can get it back in a week or two. Technology is great, but the manufacturing
is all overseas today. Even the small metal items we used to hand
fabricate are now easily done on inexpensive desktop CNC machines allowing amateurs
to do fabrication and machining "it in house". Doing the CAD/Design/Printing/CNC
work can be extremely time consuming posing the question, should I
do this or farm it out. Of course, the problem is finding the shop that will
accept your work and do it anymore is getting hard to find. So, I spend the 4
days necessary to design, CAD, print/cut, test, modify, CAD, print/cut, test
and after 4 or 5 iterations I make a trinket that will be "damned adequate" for
the task.
As for exhaust and other pipe type needs, we still have to go outside unless you
are an experienced TIG welder of thin stainless tubing. We can buy the elbows
and lengths we need online and even the ball joints for sockets, but again,
this is a trial/error/fit issue even if you are copying an existing part and
will be time, and learning curve issues.
As you well know, I'm not saving time or expense doing my own parts, as the enemy
of good is better. My redo pile is becoming a need for a recycling means.
The work just keeps snowballing. However, it keeps me out of getting in trouble
as idle hands can and will find inappropriate ways to stay occupied. At least
this is productive to me.
Stay safe,
Bud Yerly
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
On Behalf Of n7188u
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2024 10:04 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Slight exhaust leak at cylinder head manifold joint
Hi Bud,
Thanks for your reply.
First on the CKT thing yes it is very sad. But your comments about why are right
on. I am personally facing a similar situation as a product development Engineer
for a big medical device company were things are so business oriented that
its becoming more and more difficult for us Engineers to do an adequate job.
To the point I have decided to go into early retirement this year and find something
else to do. BTW, what is happening with Boeing is a good example of the
consequences of what I see at work every day.
Anyway, setting that aside lets hope someone picks up the CKT baton and provides
support to these great components.
Regarding my exhaust leak, rest assured I am not going to sit on this. I am not
the type to ignore issues, but I generally like to do my research and be prepared
before jumping into the fix. My plan is to read up on your procedure, get
what I need and do it. But this morning I was able to go for a short flight and
have some fun (spending 8 month grounded to paint the airplane requires some
compensation at the end :D )
Chris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=513036#513036
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