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1. 11:47 AM - Re: Entry Speeds (h&jeuropa)
2. 12:16 PM - Europa Service Bulletin 19 (JonathanMilbank)
3. 02:38 PM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 (h&jeuropa)
4. 03:02 PM - Re: Re: Entry Speeds (Peter Z)
5. 03:13 PM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 (JonathanMilbank)
6. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 (Donald Cameron)
7. 03:49 PM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 (JonathanMilbank)
8. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 (.)
9. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 (.)
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Subject: | Re: Entry Speeds |
I got these from Andy Draper many years ago:
Suggested manoeuver entry speeds per Andy Draper
- Chandelles 120 kts
- Wing Overs 120 kts
- Loops 130 kts / 3G
- Aileron Rolls 120 - 130 kts
- Barrel Rolls 120 - 130 kts
Jim Butcher
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Subject: | Europa Service Bulletin 19 |
This just arrived in my inbox today. I can't get into it on their website, so who
can give me the contents of the bulletin, thanks?
Service Bulletin 19
We would like to draw your attention to Service Bulletin 19, issued by Europa today.
This is applicable to all Europa aircraft and requires a pressure test to
be performed on the fuel tank to ensure its integrity.
Service Bulletin 19
If you cannot access the Members Only section of the Europa Website to view the Service Bulletins, please register at www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/#register.
A test kit can be purchased from Europa Aircraft if required. This contains all
necessary pipes, bungs, connections, gauges and clips, the majority of which
will come pre-assembled.
Product Code: SB19TestKit
Price: 312.30
Lead time: two weeks from time of order
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Subject: | Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 |
Jonathan,
There is a link in the email that takes you to Swift Europa website where you can
register. After you register (you have to provide a user name and password),
you can access Service Bulletins as well as Build Manuals.
It worked find for me a couple hours ago.
Jim Butcher
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Subject: | Re: Entry Speeds |
Thx!
Curious if those are from level flight? Assume they are?
Cheers,
PeteZ
> On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:56PM, h&jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote:
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> - Barrel Rolls 120 - 130 kts
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Subject: | Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 |
Thanks Jim. I tried that without success. Any chance that someone can reproduce
the actual document here online?
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Subject: | Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 |
Hi Jonathan
Attaches for your information.
Sent from my iPhone
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Subject: | Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 |
Many thanks for your swift response. Being a UK resident, it surprises me that
there is no mention made anywhere of our LAA Light Aircraft Association having
endorsed this. But no doubt they're fully aware of it.
Of course I'm going to view this bulletin with a jaundiced eye, taking the attitude
that if a leak should arise in the fuel tank, or anywhere else in the fuel
system for that matter, then I'm going to smell it as soon as it occurs and
start immediate investigation.
The supply of test kits might not be adequate for initial demand in the UK, but
they state 2 weeks lead time, so ..........
I've already tried contacting my aircraft's LAA inspector, to get his take on it.
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Subject: | Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 |
I might just add that I incorporated the Bug Yerly modification prior to putting
any fuel in my tank.
This was published in the Europa magazine and involves filling the gap between
the bottom of the tank and the aircraft fuselage floor with non-expanding foam.
Since this mitigates the previous problem with weight on the "ledge" that the tank
sits on, it stop it cracking and therefore leaking.
I have only just done the first engine start in December with a few runs since,
so I do not have any flight time as yet - a year of paperwork awaits.
However I am reluctant to pull out all the nicely installed fuel piping on the
off-chance that something that has not happened and has been already mitigated,
might happen, even though it should not.
I wonder if Europa could benefit from actually speaking to the Europa club, who
have a wealth of knowledge.
Regards
Trevor
New Zealand
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Subject: | Re: Europa Service Bulletin 19 |
Apologies Bud Yerly !
On 17/02/25, 2:00 PM, "." <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of
trevord@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
I might just add that I incorporated the Bug Yerly modification prior to putting
any fuel in my tank.
This was published in the Europa magazine and involves filling the gap between
the bottom of the tank and the aircraft fuselage floor with non-expanding
foam.
Since this mitigates the previous problem with weight on the "ledge" that the
tank sits on, it stop it cracking and therefore leaking.
I have only just done the first engine start in December with a few runs since,
so I do not have any flight time as yet - a year of paperwork awaits.
However I am reluctant to pull out all the nicely installed fuel piping on
the off-chance that something that has not happened and has been already mitigated,
might happen, even though it should not.
I wonder if Europa could benefit from actually speaking to the Europa club,
who have a wealth of knowledge.
Regards
Trevor
New Zealand
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