---------------------------------------------------------- EZ-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/21/07: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:55 AM - LongEz Limitations (Joel Ventura) 2. 11:48 AM - VariEze Project For Sale (Wayne E. Bressler Jr.) 3. 11:52 AM - Re: LongEz Limitations (Fred Weaver) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:01 AM PST US From: Joel Ventura Subject: EZ-List: LongEz Limitations Weav, since you have so much experience with LongEz's, I was hoping you would give me a little advice. I have a 118 HP O-235 L2A powered LongEz which I bought from a friend's estate. It is a heavy aircraft with an empty wt of 960lbs. I have never flown this airplane, but eventually hope to make some very long flights with it, including a trip up to Alaska. (I am presently making some repairs and minor modifications to the airplane.) But with me and full fuel my takeoff wt would be 1472 lb, well above the designed gross wt of the airplane, and I have not even added any baggage yet. I have seen LongEzs placarded with gross wts of 1600lb, and when I asked the builders about that they said they set that as the gross wt of the airplane so they would never be bothered by the FAA. So my question is what kind of maximum takeoff wt would you consider safe in this kind of LongEz on a standard day, and what kind of runway length would I require? What is the minimum runway length you feel comfortable with when flying at 1325lbs? If anyone else has any experience in this area, I would like to hear your comments as well. Thanks for your help. Joel Ventura Andover, MA ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:26 AM PST US From: "Wayne E. Bressler Jr." Subject: EZ-List: VariEze Project For Sale All, If anyone is interested I have a VariEze project for sale here in Sterling, VA. Some of the composite parts are assembled, but spent some time outside, and I can't guarantee that they will be airworthy. I do have a canopy and many metal fittings. I don't have the plans and templates. I figure this would be worth something to someone for the machined parts and canopy, but you never know. Anyway, I'm asking $500 for the project. Pictures and more information can be seen on my website: http://www.ganation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2 Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, -Wayne Bressler wayne@taildraggersinc.com www.taildraggersinc.com www.ganation.com 540-551-0792
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:40 AM PST US From: Fred Weaver Subject: Re: EZ-List: LongEz Limitations Joel.... The Long EZ has evolved quite a bit over the years from the simple "lightweight" Long that Burt loved so much. Without going into the archives to locate all the weights that these airplanes have been flown at, I'd just like to say that Dick Rutan and Mike Melville both changed to 0-360's and lots of extra fuel etc etc and still carried baggage. They tried never to "land" with all that weight but even that was sorta tested a time or two as I recall. The difference between an 0-235 and an 0-320 is enormous in the Long. The 0-320 should have been the engine of choice right in the beginning. (just my opinion after flying them both quite a bit.) You can still load it up with all your stuff and plenty of gas and fly quite fast AND comfortable for hours. The POH for the Long specifies the max landing weight and that's what I'd continue to try and do. You can take off a lot heavier and fly just fine as long as you obey the CG limitations. Just don't land it heavy unless you can very smoothly "roll it on"... Working on the gear leg attachments after the plane has been built and flown is not really a fun chore. I'm sure there are other email lists that the Canard guys are on and I'd recommend you post to them and get their opinions too. The Long EZ is a very strong and capable airplane. Put a Lycoming 0-320 with 160 hp on the back and go enjoy what the plane can really do. Good Luck, Fred Weaver Joel Ventura wrote: > > Weav, since you have so much experience with LongEz's, I was hoping > you would give me a little advice. I have a 118 HP O-235 L2A powered > LongEz which I bought from a friend's estate. It is a heavy aircraft > with an empty wt of 960lbs. I have never flown this airplane, but > eventually hope to make some very long flights with it, including a > trip up to Alaska. (I am presently making some repairs and minor > modifications to the airplane.) > > But with me and full fuel my takeoff wt would be 1472 lb, well above > the designed gross wt of the airplane, and I have not even added any > baggage yet. I have seen LongEzs placarded with gross wts of 1600lb, > and when I asked the builders about that they said they set that as > the gross wt of the airplane so they would never be bothered by the FAA. > So my question is what kind of maximum takeoff wt would you consider > safe in this kind of LongEz on a standard day, and what kind of runway > length would I require? What is the minimum runway length you feel > comfortable with when flying at 1325lbs? > > If anyone else has any experience in this area, I would like to hear > your comments as well. > > Thanks for your help. > > Joel Ventura > Andover, MA > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message ez-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/EZ-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/ez-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/ez-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.