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1. 08:30 AM - Re: Starter (Charles Kuss)
2. 10:54 AM - Re: Starter (George Richards)
3. 08:20 PM - Falco EFIS (Al Aitken)
4. 08:54 PM - Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! (Matt Dralle)
5. 09:43 PM - Re: Falco EFIS (George Richards)
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--> Falco-List message posted by: Charles Kuss <chaskuss@yahoo.com>
George & Listers,
A third option for starters is a converted Toyota
Pick Up truck starter. These are marketed by several
folks for the experimental market. I purchased mine
from a rebuilder who sells on EBay. See
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-149tfw-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26439QQitemZ4580254772QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-122tfw_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26442QQitemZ4522782279QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Lycomings manufactured before 1970 use the older 122
tooth ring gear starters. Although many of the older
engines have been updated. It's best to count the
number of teeth on your ring gear.
Charlie Kuss
--- George Richards <george@falco.co.nz> wrote:
> HI Al..
> The only thing stopping me for the B&C was all the
> info I read on the
> Sequoia site with other guys having trouble making
> them fit. I don't know it
> they have an inline version or not now but they
> didn't when I was buying.
> The Skytec is a fantastic little unit and spins the
> prop really well.. this
> is and will be an issue for them though. I got the
> very first one from Rich
> Chiappe at Skytec so maybe this has changed on later
> units. The companies
> support is second to none however so I'm sure that
> this will be remedied if
> it is likely to be an issue.
> I will certainly be changing the screws to something
> I can lock wire in
> future however.
>
> Hope you project is coming along nicely.
> Cheers
> GR
>
> PS. for anyone who wondered what happened to my
> website.. I'm changing
> servers at present.. hopefully back again in a
> couple of days.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of Al Aitken
> Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 4:09 p.m.
> To: falco-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Falco-List: Starter
>
>
> Thanks for the information George. I was thinking
> of using a B&C starter
> and alternator when I get to that point. Did you
> consider those and did you
> decide against them for some reason I should know
> about.
>
>
>
> Al Aitken
>
> votorschair@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of George Richards
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:35 PM
> To: Falco List
> Subject: Falco-List: Starter
>
>
>
> Hi All..
>
> I thought you may be interested in this one.
>
> I have a Skytec NL inline starter on my Falco.. It
> has been a great unit
> but the other day a potentially dangerous situation
> occurred.
>
> I was training a friend to fly my machine (Yeah
> yeah.. another story) when
> I got out all sounded fine and he duly taxied out
> for 2 circuits. On his
> return.. immediately he exited the runway there was
> the familiar noise of
> the ring gear taking a hiding. What transpired was
> as the picture
> suggests... the two screw that hold the end cap to
> the starter had vanished.
> The end cap and gear where then being spring forced
> on to the ring gear...
> not a good situation.. had the gear managed to
> engage the results would
> have been very nasty.
>
> If you have one of these starters I would
> recommend changing the front
> screws for a lockable variety.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> George Richards
>
> www.falco.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Falco-List message posted by: George Richards <george@falco.co.nz>
Hi Charlie..
Unfortunately these side motor style starters don't fit in a Falco.. Things
are very tight in there.
Several builders have tried and reported problems... see the skunkworks,
there is quite a bit written on starters.
The only comfortable fit is the in-line style of starter.
I think these starters are how B & C and others started out life. At least
where they got their first brain wave from.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Charles Kuss
Sent: Monday, 30 January 2006 5:30 a.m.
Subject: RE: Falco-List: Starter
--> Falco-List message posted by: Charles Kuss <chaskuss@yahoo.com>
George & Listers,
A third option for starters is a converted Toyota
Pick Up truck starter. These are marketed by several
folks for the experimental market. I purchased mine
from a rebuilder who sells on EBay. See
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-1
49tfw-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26439QQitemZ4580254772QQrdZ1QQsspagename
ZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Airboat-Starter-forTextron-Lycoming-Engines-1
22tfw_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26442QQitemZ4522782279QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD
VW
Lycomings manufactured before 1970 use the older 122
tooth ring gear starters. Although many of the older
engines have been updated. It's best to count the
number of teeth on your ring gear.
Charlie Kuss
--- George Richards <george@falco.co.nz> wrote:
> HI Al..
> The only thing stopping me for the B&C was all the
> info I read on the
> Sequoia site with other guys having trouble making
> them fit. I don't know it
> they have an inline version or not now but they
> didn't when I was buying.
> The Skytec is a fantastic little unit and spins the
> prop really well.. this
> is and will be an issue for them though. I got the
> very first one from Rich
> Chiappe at Skytec so maybe this has changed on later
> units. The companies
> support is second to none however so I'm sure that
> this will be remedied if
> it is likely to be an issue.
> I will certainly be changing the screws to something
> I can lock wire in
> future however.
>
> Hope you project is coming along nicely.
> Cheers
> GR
>
> PS. for anyone who wondered what happened to my
> website.. I'm changing
> servers at present.. hopefully back again in a
> couple of days.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of Al Aitken
> Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 4:09 p.m.
> To: falco-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Falco-List: Starter
>
>
> Thanks for the information George. I was thinking
> of using a B&C starter
> and alternator when I get to that point. Did you
> consider those and did you
> decide against them for some reason I should know
> about.
>
>
> Al Aitken
>
> votorschair@earthlink.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of George Richards
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:35 PM
> To: Falco List
> Subject: Falco-List: Starter
>
>
> Hi All..
>
> I thought you may be interested in this one.
>
> I have a Skytec NL inline starter on my Falco.. It
> has been a great unit
> but the other day a potentially dangerous situation
> occurred.
>
> I was training a friend to fly my machine (Yeah
> yeah.. another story) when
> I got out all sounded fine and he duly taxied out
> for 2 circuits. On his
> return.. immediately he exited the runway there was
> the familiar noise of
> the ring gear taking a hiding. What transpired was
> as the picture
> suggests... the two screw that hold the end cap to
> the starter had vanished.
> The end cap and gear where then being spring forced
> on to the ring gear...
> not a good situation.. had the gear managed to
> engage the results would
> have been very nasty.
>
> If you have one of these starters I would
> recommend changing the front
> screws for a lockable variety.
>
>
> Regards
>
> George Richards
>
> www.falco.co.nz
>
>
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While we're on the subject of gadgets, have any of you Falco builders
considered an EFIS system for your bird? If so, what system are you
considering and what features lead you to choose that system?
Has anyone looked into OP Technologies? Or Chelton Sport or Pro?
Al Aitken
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| Subject: | Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! |
--> Falco-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the
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Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental
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Al.. while not nearly the same level.. I have the Dynon efis in my Falco..
prime consideration was cost really. I only want a VFR aeroplane so this
does everything I need. Very economical and reliable. And a lot lighter than
everything than any steam driven equivalent.
I also have a hatred for vacuum systems.. Hence the main decision in the
first place.
GR
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-falco-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Al Aitken
Sent: Monday, 30 January 2006 5:20 p.m.
To: Falco-List@matronics.com
Subject: Falco-List: Falco EFIS
While we're on the subject of gadgets, have any of you Falco builders
considered an EFIS system for your bird? If so, what system are you
considering and what features lead you to choose that system?
Has anyone looked into OP Technologies? Or Chelton Sport or Pro?
Al Aitken
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