FEWMustang-List Digest Archive

Sat 01/03/04


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 04:14 PM - fuel (Gary Gerber)
     2. 05:12 PM - Re: fuel (LRE2@aol.com)
     3. 06:02 PM - Re: fuel (HMS23TURBO@aol.com)
     4. 07:30 PM - Fuel system (Robert Oliver)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:14:16 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gerber <44gn@kconline.com>
    Subject: fuel
    --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: Gary Gerber <44gn@kconline.com> Hi guys... Can't remember who told me about the fuel return line if you have fuel injection motor. Question.. where does the return line go in to the fuel tank? The same area as the pick up or to the top of the tank? Gary


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    Time: 05:12:32 PM PST US
    From: LRE2@aol.com
    Subject: Re: fuel
    --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: LRE2@aol.com Gary, I'm hoping that Ed will join in on this one, because he is by far and away the expert. I think that you need to determine the fuel injection system that you are going to use. AirFlow Performance is probably the standout in this area. They provide a number of acceptable plumbing diagrams for managing the "Return Flow" which I understand to be the fuel that is over pressure, and thus must return to the Tank. Where ever you decide to return this fuel It would seem to be best to return it to the top of the tank, rather than the bottom LRE


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    Time: 06:02:06 PM PST US
    From: HMS23TURBO@aol.com
    Subject: Re: fuel
    --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: HMS23TURBO@aol.com Gary, My feeling is that it is always the best if you can return the fuel to an area that offers the lowest back pressure or head pressure; normally the highest point practical. A little of this depends upon how your tanks flow; outer to inner on each wing half via gravity or you may have completely separated them and can switch between all four independently. If your tanks flow together and are simply joined at the baggage / gun bay access, as is the prototype, the inner tanks will always be fairly, if not completely full and have "head pressure" on any return port location on the inners until the outers have been consumed, thus keeping any return port underwater, so to speak, until the inner's fuel levels have dropped below this point. It's not practical to return the fuel to the wing tips, so the rule of thumb would be is stick with the highest point available on the inners. With the Airflow Performance system any place will do, as the fuel is returned in this system under pressure; pressure higher than the pressure in your properly vented tanks will ever be. The Airflow system doesn't read or need the data from the amount of returned fuel so don't worry about damaging any signal the system needs by returning it to a "covered return port". If you choose to use the LS1 / LS6 Chevy and it's fuel system, there is no return from the F.I.. If you are planning to use another type of F.I. let me know, and I'll be glad to look at it's needs for you. My advise is to put the return where you can do it with the best integrity and plumb it practically. The center or top of the tank, either one, it won't really matter much here. Keep it simple! Ed


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    Time: 07:30:40 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Oliver" <rocslo@charter.net>
    Subject: Fuel system
    --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: "Robert Oliver" <rocslo@charter.net> Gary: I agree with Ed H., it really depends on the fuel injection system used. I have the Airflow Performance unit on my engine and I return the fuel back into the feed line per a drawing # 6 that I got from airflow performance. They show a system of returning the fuel back to both tanks or as an alternate, back into the feed line from the fuel selector to the fuel pumps. I set mine up to feed back from the regulator bypass into the fuel line between the fuel selector and the dual fuel pumps using all 3/8 tubing. The advantage to recycling is that you are not returning the fuel to any particular tank and thus keep a handle on fuel usage. Just as a general note, I burn about 19 GPH on take off power (4500RPM) then am down to about 11.8 GPH at cruise power of 3400 RPM. In 167 hours of flying, I have had zero problems with my Airflow system. Robert




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