---------------------------------------------------------- FEWMustang-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/05/04: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:25 AM - Re: incorrect information (John Mireley) 2. 05:56 AM - Re: incorrect information (PolymerDesign@aol.com) 3. 07:15 AM - Re: incorrect information (Tore S. Bristol) 4. 07:49 AM - Fueflow (Tore S. Bristol) 5. 08:39 AM - fuel fittings (HMS23TURBO@aol.com) 6. 08:43 AM - unsuscribe Re: fuel fittings (Stan and Lindy) 7. 09:07 AM - Re: unsuscribe Re: fuel fittings (Kenneth Melvin) 8. 10:20 AM - Re: Fellow (Dennis Turner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:25:59 AM PST US From: John Mireley Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: incorrect information --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: John Mireley HMS23TURBO@aol.com wrote: > --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: HMS23TURBO@aol.com > > Hey Larry! > > Is anyone else looking at any of our postings here? This lack of > communication is frustrating. > > Ed > Ed; I'm just watching as I'm looking to use the PSRU on an engine for my Aerocomp project. I've not thought to ask about the Mustang construction practices, which I know little about. One question comes to mind as I getting ready to put in the hard points for the fuel line fittings in my tanks. How are they done on the Mustang? John Mireley ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:08 AM PST US From: PolymerDesign@aol.com Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: incorrect information --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: PolymerDesign@aol.com Sounds like you've got things under control now. I'd recommend clear RTV to adhere the plex to the skirt. Its a good sealer but is also a strong adhesive for Plexiglas. Also it can be cut out if God forbid the canopy is broken. Ken ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:50 AM PST US From: "Tore S. Bristol" Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: incorrect information --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: "Tore S. Bristol" Hi Larry! Looking at your figures I agree. 2400rpm static should come out around M .825 depending on temp. But as airspeed builds I would think M. no. should as the airspeed vector is added. ( by sine to airspeed)? Does anybody know a formula for this? Regards TS Bristol ---- Original Message --ds --- From: Subject: FEWMustang-List: incorrect information > --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: LRE2@aol.com > > Jan, > The information I sent you re: the Whirl Wind Prop was in error. > The prop is 86" not 92". thus at the manufacturers recommended Redline of > 2400RPM, the tip speed would be 0.82 Mach, well within the parameters you were > talking about. > I also have another phone number for GeeBee Canopies in Puyallup. > 253-891-4614. > Regards, > LREidemiller > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:29 AM PST US From: "Tore S. Bristol" Subject: FEWMustang-List: Fueflow --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: "Tore S. Bristol" I have a 350 SB with tuned port fuel injection that I plan to use in my Mustang project. Does anybody out there have any experience with fuel flow on such a system? ( Constant pressure w/return ) I was hoping it would be possible to connect the return line after the FF transducer, so the excess fuel is led back to the pump.This would simplify the system, as it does away with a second transducer and computer. I don't know if heat buildup in the fuel or other things could be a problem. Greetings from Norway TS Bristol ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:39:00 AM PST US From: HMS23TURBO@aol.com Subject: FEWMustang-List: fuel fittings --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: HMS23TURBO@aol.com Hi John, The mustang tanks walls are honeycomb composite. I've found that the best solution is to attaching any hardware is to bore through the general location with a hole saw well oversized the actual fitting you are looking to install. For instance, my fuel pickup fittings are -6 bulkhead fittings / dowty seals with short tubes. So I hole sawed a 2.500" hole clean through the wall and then cut out a piece of phenolic plate the same thickness as the honeycomb with an o.d. of 2.500". Then put a -6 clearance hole in the phenolic insert in the center. After this, I put the phenolic "patch" in the fuel cell wall cutout and covered each side with 4 plys of glass out to about a 5.000" circle. After cure, redrill the -6 pass throughs and sand the sealing area smooth, and you're ready to put the fitting in place. Ed ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:02 AM PST US From: Stan and Lindy Subject: unsuscribe Re: FEWMustang-List: fuel fittings --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: Stan and Lindy unsuscribeAt 11:38 AM 3/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: >--> FEWMustang-List message posted by: HMS23TURBO@aol.com > >Hi John, > >The mustang tanks walls are honeycomb composite. I've found that the best >solution is to attaching any hardware is to bore through the general location >with a hole saw well oversized the actual fitting you are looking to >install. For >instance, my fuel pickup fittings are -6 bulkhead fittings / dowty seals with >short tubes. So I hole sawed a 2.500" hole clean through the wall and then >cut out a piece of phenolic plate the same thickness as the honeycomb with an >o.d. of 2.500". Then put a -6 clearance hole in the phenolic insert in the >center. After this, I put the phenolic "patch" in the fuel cell wall >cutout and >covered each side with 4 plys of glass out to about a 5.000" circle. After >cure, >redrill the -6 pass throughs and sand the sealing area smooth, and you're >ready to put the fitting in place. > >Ed > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:36 AM PST US From: Kenneth Melvin Subject: RE: unsuscribe Re: FEWMustang-List: fuel fittings --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: Kenneth Melvin I used a similar method, using a hole saw, but stopped short of the inner skin. A disk of phenolic drilled to accept the -6 AN fitting was then epoxied into the hole, with a need to patch only the outer skin. Ken Melvin, N51KX -----Original Message----- From: owner-fewmustang-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan and Lindy Subject: unsuscribe Re: FEWMustang-List: fuel fittings --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: Stan and Lindy unsuscribeAt 11:38 AM 3/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: >--> FEWMustang-List message posted by: HMS23TURBO@aol.com > >Hi John, > >The mustang tanks walls are honeycomb composite. I've found that the best >solution is to attaching any hardware is to bore through the general location >with a hole saw well oversized the actual fitting you are looking to >install. For >instance, my fuel pickup fittings are -6 bulkhead fittings / dowty seals with >short tubes. So I hole sawed a 2.500" hole clean through the wall and then >cut out a piece of phenolic plate the same thickness as the honeycomb with an >o.d. of 2.500". Then put a -6 clearance hole in the phenolic insert in the >center. After this, I put the phenolic "patch" in the fuel cell wall >cutout and >covered each side with 4 plys of glass out to about a 5.000" circle. After >cure, >redrill the -6 pass throughs and sand the sealing area smooth, and you're >ready to put the fitting in place. > >Ed > > == == == == ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:20:07 AM PST US From: "Dennis Turner" Subject: RE: FEWMustang-List: Fellow --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: "Dennis Turner" Tore, Hi, long time no see. I have my system set up just that way you are describing. I installed a small (approximately one quart) header tank on the inside of the firewall which is down stream from the FF transducer. The excess fuel from the fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rails flows back to this header tank. You do have to add a line from the top of the header back to the fuel tanks to vent air that will accumulate in the header tank. I have a valve in the cockpit that I open during my pre-takeoff checks and the return line has a clear section where I can see it in the cockpit. I just open the valve and close it when the bubbles stop flowing through the line. I really don't have to open it on every flight as the accumulation of air in the header tank appears to be pretty small. I haven't had any problems with this setup, but I can't guarantee that there are not potential problems that I haven't experienced. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: owner-fewmustang-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tore S. Bristol Subject: FEWMustang-List: Fueflow --> FEWMustang-List message posted by: "Tore S. Bristol" I have a 350 SB with tuned port fuel injection that I plan to use in my Mustang project. Does anybody out there have any experience with fuel flow on such a system? ( Constant pressure w/return ) I was hoping it would be possible to connect the return line after the FF transducer, so the excess fuel is led back to the pump.This would simplify the system, as it does away with a second transducer and computer. I don't know if heat buildup in the fuel or other things could be a problem. Greetings from Norway TS Bristol