---------------------------------------------------------- Glasair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/17/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:34 AM - Re: Glasair.org (Bruce Gray) 2. 07:55 AM - Props (Arnold Plowman) 3. 08:17 AM - Re: Glasair.org (Jeff Siebenhaar) 4. 08:18 AM - Re: Props (Craymondw@aol.com) 5. 08:20 AM - Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/16/07 (Craymondw@aol.com) 6. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/16/07 (steve korney) 7. 09:39 AM - Re: Props (steve korney) 8. 01:08 PM - Re: Props (Craymondw@aol.com) 9. 01:42 PM - Re: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/16/07 (Craymondw@aol.com) 10. 03:44 PM - Re: Props (Byron Covey) 11. 03:46 PM - Re: what's up with glasair.org (Byron Covey) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:48 AM PST US From: "Bruce Gray" Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Glasair.org Yes, we've had a major meltdown. Our main server was a Intel SDS2. It rolled over and died 4 days ago. Intel no longer makes or supports that MB. OK, we can buy the latest and greatest. Nope, none of the new boards support native SCSI drives, everything is SATA. OK, we can buy a SCSI card and copy our drives over one at a time. Nope, the new MB/p4 combos won't support NT2000 or the version of MSSQL our older system was running on. OK, we can move up to NT server 03 and the latest MSSQL, nope the file layouts in MSSQL are not backward compatible and the list server software won't fly on the new OS. So, we've been reduced to searching the country for a new or used SDS2 MB. We found one and should have it Monday, if all goes well we should be back on line this week, if not - I don't want to think about the workload that path will create. I hate computers! PS/ New (used) MB arrived today. We'll be back online soon - I hope. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:53 PM Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair.org Sorry, I misread your message. I can't get a response from Glasair.org either. Don't know what's going on. Steve ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:15 AM PST US Subject: Glasair-List: Props From: "Arnold Plowman" Gentlemen, I am somewhat new to the list. I have a Glasair Super II S, FT with 180hp and the 68" Hartzell paddle blade CS prop. The best cruise I can get is about 175 mph and it doesn't seem to matter if I run at 75% or flat out, the speed doesn't improve much. Have you ever heard of a 2-S FT that was that slow? Is it all in the prop? It has the factory pants and I can see gaps around the brake covers, etc but can it make that much difference? Arnie Plowman 68DJ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:52 AM PST US Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Glasair.org From: "Jeff Siebenhaar" Hi Bruce, Intel makes several motherboards that support scsi drives natively. You can try se7520 series, they all do. If you ever need any help in these issues we support intel platforms and specialize in highly available/clustered/fault tolerant computer solutions Jeff -----Original Message----- From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Gray Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Glasair.org Yes, we've had a major meltdown. Our main server was a Intel SDS2. It rolled over and died 4 days ago. Intel no longer makes or supports that MB. OK, we can buy the latest and greatest. Nope, none of the new boards support native SCSI drives, everything is SATA. OK, we can buy a SCSI card and copy our drives over one at a time. Nope, the new MB/p4 combos won't support NT2000 or the version of MSSQL our older system was running on. OK, we can move up to NT server 03 and the latest MSSQL, nope the file layouts in MSSQL are not backward compatible and the list server software won't fly on the new OS. So, we've been reduced to searching the country for a new or used SDS2 MB. We found one and should have it Monday, if all goes well we should be back on line this week, if not - I don't want to think about the workload that path will create. I hate computers! PS/ New (used) MB arrived today. We'll be back online soon - I hope. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:53 PM Subject: Glasair-List: Glasair.org Sorry, I misread your message. I can't get a response from Glasair.org either. Don't know what's going on. Steve ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:18:15 AM PST US From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Props Glasair 2S FT that cruises @ 175 mph. First I have to ask at what altitude. If you only get 175 mph at 8,000 feet, then something is wrong. First I would check to see if a twist was built into the wing. I would check wing angle of attack, check to see if your flaps are reflexed a few degrees, any flap drag will slow you way down, I would slightly reflex the alerons and if the wings appear unstable lower the flaps to a point where the plane is stable. Seal any gaps between control surfaces and any air that bleeds out of the flap wells, check engine off set, your induction and cooling inlets may be too large for that size engine, check to see if the main wheel pants are parallel to the centerline of the fuselage because you could have a built in wheel pant yaw that needs to be off set by the rudder and that will slow you way down. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:01 AM PST US From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/16/07 My factory cowl weights too damn much. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:44 AM PST US From: "steve korney" Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/16/07 Craymond... Lighten up.... (pun) Best... Steve ----Original Message Follows---- From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/16/07 My factory cowl weights too damn much. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour _________________________________________________________________ Local listings, incredible imagery, and driving directions - all in one place! http://maps.live.com/?wip=69&FORM=MGAC01 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:58 AM PST US From: "steve korney" Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Props Craymond... I have a Glasair 1 retractable.... IO-320 hopped up.... Constant speed Hartzell 72" prop... What top speed should I expect... WOT, 2700 rpm's, sea level, standard day...? Best... Steve ----Original Message Follows---- From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Glasair-List: Props EAA adviser, Joe Gauthier _N2622@aol.com_ (mailto:N2622@aol.com) reported a 10 knot speed difference between props of Venture Aircraft. A friend and I flew our Glasair 2's FT with 200 HP engines side by side and he pulls away with his McCauley prop. I average 210 MPH and he claims 220 mph. For further information, his name is Monte McClaine and he owns a KR, a Glasair 2 FT and a Glasair 111. He further humiliated me when we were flying side by side and reported he was pulling 19 inches to my 22 inches. When he aplied 22 inches he pulled right away from me. His address is _Montemac@cox_ (mailto:Montemac@cox) . net. My Glasair is the 2S and is wider than the Glasair 2. Monte also uses an engine plenum and the combination of the two may account for the 10MPH speed difference. Two other builders up on speed mods are Ken Johnson and Charlie Gray. ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:45 PM PST US From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Props Steve, I have had no experience what speed you should have with that configuration. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:16 PM PST US From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Re: Glasair-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 07/16/07 Steve, I don't know if I have it in me anymore to build one, but I would love to see the performance of Glasair Super 2 S and a three in carbon fiber with all known speed mods. The engineer that worked with Stoddard Hamilton wanted to produce after market speed mods for the line. I saw the carbon fiber wing he designed for the Aurora on display at Oshkosh. I believe it was four feet longer and my 110 pound wife could easily lift the whole assembly off the bench using just her two hands. Conversely, it took two strong men to carry my wing. Estimates of weight reductions from 300 to 500 pounds for a carbon fiber Glasair three have been suggested. I think a carbon fiber GL three carrying several hundred pounds less would not only clean up at Reno, it would have a higher cruise speed, be easier to land and would have a higher survivability rate in an off field engine failure. Getting back to your plane, I should think with your configuration you would have a cruise speed at 8,000 feet in the 210 to 220 mph range. Before owning my GL 2S Ft I owned a T-18 TD with a souped up 160 that cruised around 175/180 mph. Compared to the Glasair, the T-18 plane was dirty. Stoddard Hamilton advertised my plane in the 228 to 238 mph range using a 180 hp engine. I was disappointed to see only 210 with a 200 hp engine with a constant speed prop. The only saving grace is the Glasair is wider, has double the range, the airframe is virtually maintenance free and is thirty miles an hour faster. As builder's finished their projects and test flew their planes, it became rather apparent those speeds were not attainable in the planes configuration, so Stoddard Hamilton changed the advertised numbers. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:44:40 PM PST US From: "Byron Covey" Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Props What engine and propeller do you have on your Glasair? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:35 PM PST US From: "Byron Covey" Subject: Re: Glasair-List: what's up with glasair.org Bruce was planning some upgrades to the system. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message glasair-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Glasair-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/glasair-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/glasair-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.