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Bruce:
I did not know that the hydraulic reservoir was proprietary.? That said, why is
the canister unique?? When I serviced the pump on my Glasair III I found that
the reservoir held a lot more fluid than the pickups could access, i.e., the
pickup only went an inch or two down into a reservoir leaving about 4 inches inaccessible.?
Is there some logic behind this "proprietary" design?? Why cannot
a non-proprietary canister/reservoir?work as well?? It is not a question of
cost, more of why?
Thanks.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 2:14 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Oildyne will overhaul your existing pump. New pumps are available from any authorized
Oildyne dealer. Be advised that the hydraulic fluid reservoir canister
is proprietary to Glasair Aviation and you will have to buy?one from them if you
purchase a new pump direct from Oildyne.
?
?
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
?
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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:36 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Need a oildyne pump for my super 2s rg glasair # 342-6363-007 or 108am19-bl-2vt
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| Subject: | wtb oildyne pump |
The ports on the canister are installed by Glasair Aviation. The left
over
portion at the bottom of the can is the fluid reserve used by the
emergency
gear extension system.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
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From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
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darnpilot@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Bruce:
I did not know that the hydraulic reservoir was proprietary. That said,
why
is the canister unique? When I serviced the pump on my Glasair III I
found
that the reservoir held a lot more fluid than the pickups could access,
i.e., the pickup only went an inch or two down into a reservoir leaving
about 4 inches inaccessible. Is there some logic behind this
"proprietary"
design? Why cannot a non-proprietary canister/reservoir work as well?
It
is not a question of cost, more of why?
Thanks.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 2:14 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Oildyne will overhaul your existing pump. New pumps are available from
any
authorized Oildyne dealer. Be advised that the hydraulic fluid reservoir
canister is proprietary to Glasair Aviation and you will have to buy one
from them if you purchase a new pump direct from Oildyne.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
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<mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com?> ] On Behalf Of Randy
Pinkston
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:36 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Need a oildyne pump for my super 2s rg glasair # 342-6363-007 or
108am19-bl-2vt or2vtt & still have this my kit for sale 99% glass work
done!
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| Subject: | Re: wtb oildyne pump |
That may be the way the system works on an airplane with the separate hydraulic
down cylinders for the emergency extension, but not on the others.? In my plane
the hand pump and release valve is the "emergency system".? The way the system
is plumbed, there is no way to access all the fluid below the pump pickup
in the canister, and in my case, its quite a lot.? Are you saying the plumbing
is different, i.e., different pickups from the pump canister for the emergency
down system?
Just trying to understand.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:19 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
The ports on the canister are?installed by Glasair Aviation. The left over portion
at the bottom of the can is the fluid reserve used by the emergency gear extension
system.
?
?
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of darnpilot@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Bruce:
I did not know that the hydraulic reservoir was proprietary.? That said, why is
the canister unique?? When I serviced the pump on my Glasair III I found that
the reservoir held a lot more fluid than the pickups could access, i.e., the
pickup only went an inch or two down into a reservoir leaving about 4 inches inaccessible.?
Is there some logic behind this "proprietary" design?? Why cannot
a non-proprietary canister/reservoir?work as well?? It is not a question of
cost, more of why?
Thanks.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 2:14 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Oildyne will overhaul your existing pump. New pumps are available from any authorized
Oildyne dealer. Be advised that the hydraulic fluid reservoir canister
is proprietary to Glasair Aviation and you will have to buy?one from them if you
purchase a new pump direct from Oildyne.
?
?
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Pinkston
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:36 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Need a oildyne pump for my super 2s rg glasair # 342-6363-007 or 108am19-bl-2vt
or2vtt & still have this my kit for sale 99% glass work done!??? ser # 2311
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| Subject: | wtb oildyne pump |
There are 2 ports on the canister. The top one is the fluid return, when
you
open the dump valve, this is where the fluid goes. The bottom one is the
pickup for the emergency hand pump. Yours should be plumbed this way. If
it's not then it's wrong. The separate cylinders for the emergency down
system were only in the latest iteration of the gear system. Prior to
this,
the system used the normal cylinders for emergency extension. With the
latest gear the output of the hand pump was redirected to the new
emergency
down cylinders via independent lines. The return line and pickup point
of
the hand pump to the canister did not change.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
darnpilot@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
That may be the way the system works on an airplane with the separate
hydraulic down cylinders for the emergency extension, but not on the
others.
In my plane the hand pump and release valve is the "emergency system".
The
way the system is plumbed, there is no way to access all the fluid below
the
pump pickup in the canister, and in my case, its quite a lot. Are you
saying the plumbing is different, i.e., different pickups from the pump
canister for the emergency down system?
Just trying to understand.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:19 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
The ports on the canister are installed by Glasair Aviation. The left
over
portion at the bottom of the can is the fluid reserve used by the
emergency
gear extension system.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com?> ] On Behalf Of
darnpilot@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Bruce:
I did not know that the hydraulic reservoir was proprietary. That said,
why
is the canister unique? When I serviced the pump on my Glasair III I
found
that the reservoir held a lot more fluid than the pickups could access,
i.e., the pickup only went an inch or two down into a reservoir leaving
about 4 inches inaccessible. Is there some logic behind this
"proprietary"
design? Why cannot a non-proprietary canister/reservoir work as well?
It
is not a question of cost, more of why?
Thanks.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 2:14 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Oildyne will overhaul your existing pump. New pumps are available from
any
authorized Oildyne dealer. Be advised that the hydraulic fluid reservoir
canister is proprietary to Glasair Aviation and you will have to buy one
from them if you purchase a new pump direct from Oildyne.
Bruce
<http://www.glasair.org/> www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com?> ] On Behalf Of Randy
Pinkston
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:36 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Need a oildyne pump for my super 2s rg glasair # 342-6363-007 or
108am19-bl-2vt or2vtt & still have this my kit for sale 99% glass work
done!
ser # 2311
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List">http://www.matro
nics.
com/Navigator?Glasair-List
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| Subject: | Re: wtb oildyne pump |
Ah, thank you Bruce.? A light went off when you explained the differences.? Mine
is (I think) correct.? See photo.? So the bottom fitting is for the emergency
pump.? Now I see the logic.? If the electric pump fails or loses fluid, the
emergency system can use all that extra fluid in the canister to pump down the
gear.? Clever.
Jeff
View full size
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:56 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
There are 2 ports on the canister. The top one is the fluid return, when you open
the dump valve, this is where the fluid goes. The bottom one is the pickup
for the emergency hand pump. Yours should be plumbed this way. If it's not then
it's wrong. The separate cylinders for the emergency down system were only in
the latest iteration of the gear system. Prior to this, the system used the
normal cylinders for emergency extension. With the latest gear the output of the
hand pump was redirected to the new emergency down cylinders via independent
lines. The return line and pickup point of the hand pump to the canister did
not change.
?
?
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of darnpilot@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
That may be the way the system works on an airplane with the separate hydraulic
down cylinders for the emergency extension, but not on the others.? In my plane
the hand pump and release valve is the "emergency system".? The way the system
is plumbed, there is no way to access all the fluid below the pump pickup
in the canister, and in my case, its quite a lot.? Are you saying the plumbing
is different, i.e., different pickups from the pump canister for the emergency
down system?
Just trying to understand.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:19 am
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
The ports on the canister are?installed by Glasair Aviation. The left over portion
at the bottom of the can is the fluid reserve used by the emergency gear extension
system.
?
?
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of darnpilot@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: wtb oildyne pump
Bruce:
I did not know that the hydraulic reservoir was proprietary.? That said, why is
the canister unique?? When I serviced the pump on my Glasair III I found that
the reservoir held a lot more fluid than the pickups could access, i.e., the
pickup only went an inch or two down into a reservoir leaving about 4 inches inaccessible.?
Is there some logic behind this "proprietary" design?? Why cannot
a non-proprietary canister/reservoir?work as well?? It is not a question of
cost, more of why?
Thanks.
Jeff
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