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1. 07:25 AM - Re: Nylaflow (MPPalmer@aol.com)
2. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Nylaflow (Craymondw@aol.com)
3. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: Nylaflow (Robin Young)
4. 10:55 AM - Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (Craymondw@aol.com)
5. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (Robin Young)
6. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (Craymondw@aol.com)
7. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (fontenotsteve)
8. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (Robin Young)
9. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (Craymondw@AOL.COM)
10. 12:36 PM - Re: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (Robin Young)
11. 01:03 PM - Re: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants (Bruce Gray)
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Hi Robin:
After numerous failures of the nylaflow at both the brakes (overheating) and
at the master cylinders (due to movement), I finally switched to the Aeroquip
TFE race quality, steel braid wrapped Teflon lined stuff that other's here in
Phoenix are using. It's sold by Summit Racing.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AER%2DFCC0320&
N=700+4294924496+4294821621+4294923289+4294906635+4294906583+115&autoview=sku
It was a bear opening up the existing conduit in the back of the landing gear
struts to accept the larger diameter hose (I soldered a Dremel tool grinding
head to welding rod and even then, I had to slice the conduit open) but
haven't had a failure since. I wish I had done it when building.
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Skull on DVD today!
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I have well over a 1,000 hours on my brake lines and never had a failure.
When I installed mine I formed a 360 loop before installing the line and I make
sure the loop is out board of the fitting in the caliper. Also, when I land
and I am on roll out, I deploy the flaps to 45% and hold back on the stick
and hold full aleron into the wind ( trying to get all the paddles I can into
the air) When I apply brakes, I first give them a quick stab. I find forming
miniature "S" turns helps slow the plane down. Opening up the hatches on roll
out really slows the plane down. I guess it works because I get well over
200 hours on a set of pads.
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Thanks Mike, this is just the information I am looking for. You might
remember I am changing my gear to the Grove set up. While on this, I am
putting the pressure recovery wheel pants on. I am looking forward to the
results. I have done nothing to improve the speed in several years and hope
this will be significant.
How is the healing coming? Robin
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[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
MPPalmer@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: Nylaflow
Hi Robin:
After numerous failures of the nylaflow at both the brakes (overheating) and
at the master cylinders (due to movement), I finally switched to the
Aeroquip TFE race quality, steel braid wrapped Teflon lined stuff that
other's here in Phoenix are using. It's sold by Summit Racing.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=AER%2DFCC0320
&N=700+4294924496+4294821621+4294923289+4294906635+4294906583+115&autoview=s
ku
It was a bear opening up the existing conduit in the back of the landing
gear struts to accept the larger diameter hose (I soldered a Dremel tool
grinding head to welding rod and even then, I had to slice the conduit open)
but haven't had a failure since. I wish I had done it when building.
Mike Palmer <><
**************
BUY Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull on DVD today!
p://www.indianajones.com/site/index.html)
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
How much speed is added with pressure recovery wheel pants and where do you
purchase them?
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
I have recently purchased a set from Van's. I think the cost was about 375
and includes some really nice aluminum brackets that are preformed. A guy
on the Van's Air force site offers the replacement brackets in stainless
but, I see no reason to go that way. Fitting is underway so...no flight test
yet. Some RV guys that have converted from the old design that is similar
to the glasair pants claimed a eight MPH increase. Our planes are faster
anyway and the increase should be even more.
I am unaware of a nose wheel pressure recovery pant, but the two main wheel
pants are well made and very light for the size. RObin 286YM
How much speed is added with pressure recovery wheel pants and where do you
purchase them?
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
My Glasair 2S FT cruises around 210 mph @ 8.500 feet. Several years ago I
dropped a center line, center firewall and tail, on my concrete hanger floor.
Then I dropped two plumb lines from the plane to the center line. Then I ran
two parallel lines that went through the main wheel line. After doing that I
was surprised to find that the rears of my both main wheel pants where off
center by three inches. I readjusted the pants and and had to readjust my rudder
trim. After performing those three adjustment I picked up close to 10 mph. I
friend had a wind tunnel test performed on his plane and found the wing
fairing dragged down the plane. Glasairs without wing fairing's are generally
faster than Glasairs with them. A Stoddard Hamilton engineer informed me that
he
had a wing fairing retro fit that would add 15 mph to the cruise. But six
months later Stoddard Hamilton went belly up. Glasairs should be just a fast as
Lancairs, but unfortunately the factory have offered no improvements to the
design. The other problem is weight. Glasairs are built like tanks and if the
spar, skins and landing gear was offered in carbon fiber, a few hundred
pounds would be shed.
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
I haven't made a decisioin yet but some glasair guys are claiming 10kts.
You can order the vans front wheel pants from them. I think it''s about
$140. All together all three are about 400.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Young
To: glasair-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants
I have recently purchased a set from Van's. I think the cost was
about 375 and includes some really nice aluminum brackets that are
preformed. A guy on the Van's Air force site offers the replacement
brackets in stainless but, I see no reason to go that way. Fitting is
underway so...no flight test yet. Some RV guys that have converted from
the old design that is similar to the glasair pants claimed a eight MPH
increase. Our planes are faster anyway and the increase should be even
more.
I am unaware of a nose wheel pressure recovery pant, but the two main
wheel pants are well made and very light for the size. RObin 286YM
How much speed is added with pressure recovery wheel pants and where
do you purchase them?
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
A Stoddard Hamilton engineer informed me that he had a wing fairing retro
fit that would add 15 mph to the cruise.
Was it Bob Gavinski that had developed the fairing. If so, he may can be
contacted.....15MPH is worth the small amount of work to change. RObin 286YM
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
Robin, it was that young engineer that developed the carbon fiber wing for
the Aurora.
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
Robin, it was that young engineer that developed the carbon fiber wing for
the Aurora.
I saw the wing at Oshkosh and it was Bob that demonstrated the weight and
strength when I was in the booth. Last I heard Bob Gavinski was a corp.
pilot.....Bruce. Are you still in contact with Bob? RObin
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| Subject: | Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants |
No, I haven't seen or heard from Bob since SH went belly up.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Young
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Re: Pressure recovery wheel pants
Robin, it was that young engineer that developed the carbon fiber wing for
the Aurora.
I saw the wing at Oshkosh and it was Bob that demonstrated the weight and
strength when I was in the booth. Last I heard Bob Gavinski was a corp.
pilot.....Bruce. Are you still in contact with Bob? RObin
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