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1. 07:13 AM - Re: 100LL (Craymondw@aol.com)
2. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: 100LL (Bruce Gray)
3. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: 100LL (John Bolding)
4. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: 100LL (Steve Thomas)
5. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: 100LL (John Bolding)
6. 04:57 PM - Re: Re: 100LL (Craymondw@aol.com)
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I read in an AOPA article that stated that unless an aircraft engine isn't
turbo charged or has high compression pistons, the engine doesn't need to
use high octane 100LL fuel. It went on to say that the only reason 100LL
has a high octane is for those mentioned turbo charged or high compression
engines. Does this mean that 200HP and 300 HP engines can use auto gas. I
know a Franklin engine dealer that has been using auto gas in his 200HP
engines for years. He also informed me about a Moony Club that uses auto fuel
in
all of their aircraft. He recently returned from a conference that involved
A/C fuel providers and related to me how in the near future the only fuel
available will be unleaded leaded car gas with a few extra additives for
altitudes. Does this mean that all along aviators using non turbo engines
have been over paying for the use of 100LL when they could have used auto gas?
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The most likely candidate will be 100LL without the lead or about 95
octane.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
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Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
I read in an AOPA article that stated that unless an aircraft engine
isn't turbo charged or has high compression pistons, the engine doesn't
need to use high octane 100LL fuel. It went on to say that the only
reason 100LL has a high octane is for those mentioned turbo charged or
high compression engines. Does this mean that 200HP and 300 HP engines
can use auto gas. I know a Franklin engine dealer that has been using
auto gas in his 200HP engines for years. He also informed me about a
Moony Club that uses auto fuel in all of their aircraft. He recently
returned from a conference that involved A/C fuel providers and related
to me how in the near future the only fuel available will be unleaded
leaded car gas with a few extra additives for altitudes. Does this mean
that all along aviators using non turbo engines have been over paying
for the use of 100LL when they could have used auto gas?
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About 30 yrs ago I ran an RV3 for 500+ hrs on almost 100% premium auto
fuel, The engine was a 0-320 160 hp I built up. IF I remember
correctly (50% chance of that) the manual required 91 (or maybe 90)
octane . Engine ran fine, plugs stayed clean even at the low power I
ran a lot of time while skimming the beach.
John Bolding
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Gray
To: glasair-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
The most likely candidate will be 100LL without the lead or about 95
octane.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
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From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Craymondw@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:04 AM
To: glasair-list@matronics.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
I read in an AOPA article that stated that unless an aircraft engine
isn't turbo charged or has high compression pistons, the engine doesn't
need to use high octane 100LL fuel. It went on to say that the only
reason 100LL has a high octane is for those mentioned turbo charged or
high compression engines. Does this mean that 200HP and 300 HP engines
can use auto gas. I know a Franklin engine dealer that has been using
auto gas in his 200HP engines for years. He also informed me about a
Moony Club that uses auto fuel in all of their aircraft. He recently
returned from a conference that involved A/C fuel providers and related
to me how in the near future the only fuel available will be unleaded
leaded car gas with a few extra additives for altitudes. Does this mean
that all along aviators using non turbo engines have been over paying
for the use of 100LL when they could have used auto gas?
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The real issue with mogas these days is ethanol content. With up to
10% ethanol in the gas, there are untold things that can happen to
your airplane, including dissolving gas tanks, rotting fuel bladders,
hose breakdown, and more. I am currently running a test on the effect
of ethanol on my gas tanks. But, if your mogas has ethanol, you may
have more than detonation for a problem.
Steve Thomas
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On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:22 PM, John Bolding wrote:
> About 30 yrs ago I ran an RV3 for 500+ hrs on almost 100% premium
> auto fuel, The engine was a 0-320 160 hp I built up. IF I
> remember correctly (50% chance of that) the manual required 91 (or
> maybe 90) octane . Engine ran fine, plugs stayed clean even at
> the low power I ran a lot of time while skimming the beach.
> John Bolding
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Gray
> To: glasair-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:24 AM
> Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
>
> The most likely candidate will be 100LL without the lead or about 95
> octane.
>
> Bruce
> www.Glasair.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf OfCraymondw@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:04 AM
> To: glasair-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
>
> I read in an AOPA article that stated that unless an aircraft engine
> isn't turbo charged or has high compression pistons, the engine
> doesn't need to use high octane 100LL fuel. It went on to say that
> the only reason 100LL has a high octane is for those mentioned turbo
> charged or high compression engines. Does this mean that 200HP and
> 300 HP engines can use auto gas. I know a Franklin engine dealer
> that has been using auto gas in his 200HP engines for years. He also
> informed me about a Moony Club that uses auto fuel in all of their
> aircraft. He recently returned from a conference that involved A/C
> fuel providers and related to me how in the near future the only
> fuel available will be unleaded leaded car gas with a few extra
> additives for altitudes. Does this mean that all along aviators
> using non turbo engines have been over paying for the use of 100LL
> when they could have used auto gas?
>
> What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any
> occasion.
>
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ABSOLUTELY, 30 yrs ago the car gas was MUCH different from today,
gonna be interesting to see what shakes out from all this John
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Thomas
To: glasair-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
The real issue with mogas these days is ethanol content. With up to
10% ethanol in the gas, there are untold things that can happen to your
airplane, including dissolving gas tanks, rotting fuel bladders, hose
breakdown, and more. I am currently running a test on the effect of
ethanol on my gas tanks. But, if your mogas has ethanol, you may have
more than detonation for a problem.
Steve Thomas
________________________________________________________________________
On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:22 PM, John Bolding wrote:
About 30 yrs ago I ran an RV3 for 500+ hrs on almost 100% premium
auto fuel, The engine was a 0-320 160 hp I built up. IF I remember
correctly (50% chance of that) the manual required 91 (or maybe 90)
octane . Engine ran fine, plugs stayed clean even at the low power I
ran a lot of time while skimming the beach.
John Bolding
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Gray
To: glasair-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
The most likely candidate will be 100LL without the lead or about
95 octane.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
OfCraymondw@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:04 AM
To: glasair-list@matronics.com
Subject: Glasair-List: Re: 100LL
I read in an AOPA article that stated that unless an aircraft
engine isn't turbo charged or has high compression pistons, the engine
doesn't need to use high octane 100LL fuel. It went on to say that the
only reason 100LL has a high octane is for those mentioned turbo charged
or high compression engines. Does this mean that 200HP and 300 HP
engines can use auto gas. I know a Franklin engine dealer that has been
using auto gas in his 200HP engines for years. He also informed me about
a Moony Club that uses auto fuel in all of their aircraft. He recently
returned from a conference that involved A/C fuel providers and related
to me how in the near future the only fuel available will be unleaded
leaded car gas with a few extra additives for altitudes. Does this mean
that all along aviators using non turbo engines have been over paying
for the use of 100LL when they could have used auto gas?
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The AOPA article said that general aviation will definitely be running on
unleaded mogas with a few extra additives and that unless an engine is
turbo charged, it only needs 91 octane. I would like to see data from people
flying 200/300 hp engines. I only know one Franklin dealer that says uses it
in his 200hp aircraft and claims he has had no problems.
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