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      I put VG's on the bottom of the horizontal stabilizer, about six inches (pl
      us or minus) ahead of the hinge line to keep airflow attached while flaring
       and landing. You see same on Aero Commanders, IIRC. I wrote about it in on
      e of the early newsletters.
      
      BTW, I notice that I do not get any bugs on the horizontal stabilizer from 
      a line tangent to the fuselage to the root of the stab. I gotta conclude th
      e air is stagnant there. And that's quite a lot of air. (GII fuselage with 
      a GI stabilizer.)
      
      I keep thinking about putting HUGE VG's along with side of the fuselage, wh
      ere it diverges at the flap, to keep the airflow attached, as they did on t
      he Seawind.
      
      But we're talking 3 inch VG's, which look dangerous for getting in and out 
      of the plane.
      
      Mike Palmer <><
      
      
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      I used to have a Glasair 1 RG with VG's on the bottom of the horizontal  
      stabilizer as well. I can't tell you if they made any difference as I never 
      had  the opportunity to fly the aircraft without them, I bought it that way. I
      
      can  tell you that I remember thinking that I was able to keep the nose 
      wheel off the  runway until the airplane was barely moving.
      
      
      In a message dated 9/23/2013 1:23:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      mppalmer@aol.com writes:
      
      I put VG's on  the bottom of the horizontal  stabilizer, about six inches 
      (plus or minus) ahead of  the hinge line to keep airflow attached while 
      flaring and landing. You see same on  Aero Commanders, IIRC. I wrote about it in
      
      one of the  early newsletters.
      
      BTW, I  notice that I do not get any bugs on the horizontal  stabilizer 
      from a line tangent to  the fuselage to the root  of the stab. I gotta conclude
      
      the  air is stagnant there. And that's quite a lot of air. (GII fuselage 
      with a GI stabilizer.)
      
      I  keep thinking about putting HUGE VG's along with side of  the fuselage, 
      where it diverges at  the flap, to keep the airflow attached, as they did on 
       the Seawind.
      
      But we're  talking 3 inch VG's, which look dangerous for getting in  and 
      out of the  plane.
      
      Mike Palmer  <><
      
      
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      I have VGs on the vert and horiz stab as well. Small rudder still so I was
      looking for some more control. It did work. Building the larger rudder now
      but will leave the VGs there. Thanks for all of the comments. Any experience
      is appreciated!
      
      
      Bob
      
      
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      [mailto:owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      CYNAMONB@aol.com
      Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:32 AM
      Subject: Re: Glasair-List: Re: VG's
      
      
      I used to have a Glasair 1 RG with VG's on the bottom of the horizontal
      stabilizer as well. I can't tell you if they made any difference as I never
      had the opportunity to fly the aircraft without them, I bought it that way.
      I can tell you that I remember thinking that I was able to keep the nose
      wheel off the runway until the airplane was barely moving.
      
      
      In a message dated 9/23/2013 1:23:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      mppalmer@aol.com <mailto:mppalmer@aol.com>  writes:
      
      I put VG's on the bottom of the horizontal stabilizer, about six inches
      (plus or minus) ahead of the hinge line to keep airflow attached while
      flaring and landing. You see same on Aero Commanders, IIRC. I wrote about it
      in one of the early newsletters.
      
      BTW, I notice that I do not get any bugs on the horizontal stabilizer from a
      line tangent to the fuselage to the root of the stab. I gotta conclude the
      air is stagnant there. And that's quite a lot of air. (GII fuselage with a
      GI stabilizer.)
      
      I keep thinking about putting HUGE VG's along with side of the fuselage,
      where it diverges at the flap, to keep the airflow attached, as they did on
      the Seawind.
      
      But we're talking 3 inch VG's, which look dangerous for getting in and out
      of the plane.
      
      Mike Palmer <><
      
      
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      Mike,
      My Glasair has GII fuselage and GI stab also. I'm happy with it's
      performance over all, but I'd always like to reduce stall speed
      further... Did you see real performance improvements after adding the VG's
      to your stab? I will look up your newsletter article.
      Brian Beaird
      RGII N240DB
      
      
      On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM, <mppalmer@aol.com> wrote:
      
      > I put VG's on the bottom of the horizontal stabilizer, about six inches (
      > plus or minus) ahead of the hinge line to keep airflow attached while
      > flaring and landing. You see same on Aero Commanders, IIRC. I wrote about
      > it in one of the early newsletters.
      >
      > BTW, I notice that I do not get any bugs on the horizontal stabilizer
      > from a line tangent to the fuselage to the root of the stab. I gotta
      > conclude the air is stagnant there. And that's quite a lot of air. (GII
      > fuselage with a GI stabilizer.)
      >
      > I keep thinking about putting HUGE VG's along with side of the fuselage, where
      > it diverges at the flap, to keep the airflow attached, as they did on the
      > Seawind.
      >
      > But we're talking 3 inch VG's, which look dangerous for getting in and
      > out of the plane.
      >
      > Mike Palmer <><
      >
      >    *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
 
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