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1. 01:00 PM - louvers on Glasair III (Bubblehead)
2. 02:11 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (n355tc@comcast.net)
3. 02:57 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Craymondw@aol.com)
4. 04:18 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (John Dalman)
5. 04:49 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (n355tc@comcast.net)
6. 05:27 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Dick Gossen)
7. 06:38 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (John Dalman)
8. 06:38 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (John Dalman)
9. 06:40 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Craymondw@aol.com)
10. 06:48 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Craymondw@aol.com)
11. 07:51 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Jeff Siebenhaar)
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| Subject: | louvers on Glasair III |
At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on the
right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I like to
look at other people's planes and learn from them.
What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing they are
either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet for the
oil cooler.
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John
Keller, TX
RV-8 N247TD
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
Wait until you see and hear my new powder coated 4 to 1 scavenge exhaust
system that dumps into a 3 inch exhaust pipe that was designed by a NASCAR
mechanic. The NASCAR mechanic and exhaust assembler believe it will boast
my horse power up 20%!! When I gun the engine it sounds like a 600 h.p.
hot rod engine and sounds just awesome!! Before my engine rebuild and using
the poorly designed exhaust supplied by Glasair, I was clocked at Sun and
Fun in 1992 doing 235 mph. When the NASCAR mechanic saw my cowl off he stood
there in amazement and laughed at how poorly the system was designed while
pointing out how it was choking my engine, not to mention the thing
cracking several times!! Since racing the plane in 1992 I have made several
modifications to my Glasair2SFT and will let you know what the official new
speed will be with this new exhaust system. Now this NASCAR mechanic is about
to redesign the GL3 exhaust system. This mechanic has kept the jigs and
reports he can provide these exhaust systems for the GL2's for around $1,800.
And they are guaranteed to not crack or rust!!
In a message dated 8/26/2014 5:11:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
n355tc@comcast.net writes:
You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with
my kit from glasair.
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From: Bubblehead
Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
--> Glasair-List message posted by: "Bubblehead" <jdalmansr@gmail.com>
At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on
the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I
like to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing
they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the
outlet for the oil cooler.
--------
John
Keller, TX
RV-8 N247TD
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler?
On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <n355tc@comcast.net> wrote:
> You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with
> my kit from glasair.
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> To: glasair-list@matronics.com
> Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
> Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
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> At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on
> the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I
> like to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
>
> What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing
> they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the
> outlet for the oil cooler.
>
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> John
> Keller, TX
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot
air from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic.
I've gotten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any
weather. If I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair
III was not designed to fly slow.
You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly
larger coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided
to fly faster and that fixed it just fine.
Dick Gossen
N90GG
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman <jdalmansr@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler?
>
> On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <n355tc@comcast.net> wrote:
> You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came
with my kit from glasair.
>
> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
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> From: Bubblehead
> To: glasair-list@matronics.com
> Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
> Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
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> At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a
louver on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an
RV-8 but I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
>
> What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am
guessing they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or
are the outlet for the oil cooler.
>
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> John
> Keller, TX
> RV-8 N247TD
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
Thank you for the additional information. In hot weather my oil runs about
200 in cruise and that seems ok to me. It never goes above 215 in climb,
but two CHTs go to about 410 or 415 in climb on hot days. I am going to
put new baffles on this winter, which should help.
Thanks again,
John
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Dick Gossen <gossend@gmail.com> wrote:
> On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot
> air from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic. I'
ve
> gotten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any weather.
> If I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair III was not
> designed to fly slow.
> You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly
> larger coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided t
o
> fly faster and that fixed it just fine.
> Dick Gossen
> N90GG
>
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman <jdalmansr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler?
> On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <n355tc@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came wit
h
>> my kit from glasair.
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>> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
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>> From: Bubblehead
>> To: glasair-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
>> Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
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>> At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver
>> on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 b
ut
>> I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
>>
>> What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing
>> they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the
>> outlet for the oil cooler.
>>
>> --------
>> John
>> Keller, TX
>> RV-8 N247TD
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
Thanks. Good information.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:47 PM, <n355tc@comcast.net> wrote:
> I'm not flying yet but I know of no problems with temps using this setup.
> I also know of no one who has redesigned the oil cooler system in the
> glasair III.
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> *From: *John Dalman
> *To: *glasair-list@matronics.com
> *Sent: *August 26, 2014 at 7:18 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
>
> Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler?
> On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <n355tc@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with
>> my kit from glasair.
>>
>> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>>
>> From: Bubblehead
>> To: glasair-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
>> Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
>>
>>
>> At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver
>> on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but
>> I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
>>
>> What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing
>> they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the
>> outlet for the oil cooler.
>>
>> --------
>> John
>> Keller, TX
>> RV-8 N247TD
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
In a message dated 8/26/2014 7:18:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jdalmansr@gmail.com writes:
Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler?
On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <_n355tc@comcast.net_ (mailto:n355tc@comcast.net)
> wrote:
You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with
my kit from glasair.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: Bubblehead
Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
--> Glasair-List message posted by: "Bubblehead" <_jdalmansr@gmail.com_
(mailto:jdalmansr@gmail.com) >
At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on
the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I
like to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing
they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the
outlet for the oil cooler.
--------
John
Keller, TX
RV-8 N247TD
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383
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| Subject: | Re: louvers on Glasair III |
Back in the early 1990's a GL111 was placed in a wind tunnel and found that
the front of the cowling was buffeting. The builder redesigned the cowling
by bringing the inlets forward. With that in mind, I can see why the
slower a three flies the worse the buffet and the hotter it runs. .
In a message dated 8/26/2014 8:27:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gossend@gmail.com writes:
On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot
air from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic. I've
gotten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any weather. If
I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair III was not
designed to fly slow.
You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly
larger coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided to fly
faster and that fixed it just fine.
Dick Gossen
N90GG
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman <_jdalmansr@gmail.com_
(mailto:jdalmansr@gmail.com) > wrote:
Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler?
On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <_n355tc@comcast.net_ (mailto:n355tc@comcast.net)
> wrote:
You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with
my kit from glasair.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: Bubblehead
Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
--> Glasair-List message posted by: "Bubblehead" <_jdalmansr@gmail.com_
(mailto:jdalmansr@gmail.com) >
At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on
the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I
like to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing
they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the
outlet for the oil cooler.
--------
John
Keller, TX
RV-8 N247TD
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383
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| Subject: | louvers on Glasair III |
Just curious, which two cylinders ?
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From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com <owner-glasair-list-server@ma
tronics.com> on behalf of John Dalman <jdalmansr@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:37:59 PM
Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
Thank you for the additional information. In hot weather my oil runs about
200 in cruise and that seems ok to me. It never goes above 215 in climb,
but two CHTs go to about 410 or 415 in climb on hot days. I am going to pu
t new baffles on this winter, which should help.
Thanks again,
John
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Dick Gossen <gossend@gmail.com<mailto:goss
end@gmail.com>> wrote:
On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot air
from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic. I've go
tten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any weather. If
I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair III was not desi
gned to fly slow.
You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly larger
coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided to fly fa
ster and that fixed it just fine.
Dick Gossen
N90GG
On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman <jdalmansr@gmail.com<mailto:jdalma
nsr@gmail.com>> wrote:
Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler?
On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <n355tc@comcast.net<mailto:n355tc@comcast.net>> wr
ote:
You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with m
y kit from glasair.
Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
------ Original Message ------
From: Bubblehead
Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM
Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III
o:jdalmansr@gmail.com>>
At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on
the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I l
ike to look at other people's planes and learn from them.
What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing the
y are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet
for the oil cooler.
--------
John
Keller, TX
RV-8 N247TD
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