---------------------------------------------------------- Glasair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/26/14: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:00 PM - louvers on Glasair III (Bubblehead) 2. 02:11 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (n355tc@comcast.net) 3. 02:57 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Craymondw@aol.com) 4. 04:18 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (John Dalman) 5. 04:49 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (n355tc@comcast.net) 6. 05:27 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Dick Gossen) 7. 06:38 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (John Dalman) 8. 06:38 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (John Dalman) 9. 06:40 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Craymondw@aol.com) 10. 06:48 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Craymondw@aol.com) 11. 07:51 PM - Re: louvers on Glasair III (Jeff Siebenhaar) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:00:35 PM PST US Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III From: "Bubblehead" At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet for the oil cooler. -------- John Keller, TX RV-8 N247TD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:14 PM PST US From: n355tc@comcast.net Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:57:37 PM PST US From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III Wait until you see and hear my new powder coated 4 to 1 scavenge exhaust system that dumps into a 3 inch exhaust pipe that was designed by a NASCAR mechanic. The NASCAR mechanic and exhaust assembler believe it will boast my horse power up 20%!! When I gun the engine it sounds like a 600 h.p. hot rod engine and sounds just awesome!! Before my engine rebuild and using the poorly designed exhaust supplied by Glasair, I was clocked at Sun and Fun in 1992 doing 235 mph. When the NASCAR mechanic saw my cowl off he stood there in amazement and laughed at how poorly the system was designed while pointing out how it was choking my engine, not to mention the thing cracking several times!! Since racing the plane in 1992 I have made several modifications to my Glasair2SFT and will let you know what the official new speed will be with this new exhaust system. Now this NASCAR mechanic is about to redesign the GL3 exhaust system. This mechanic has kept the jigs and reports he can provide these exhaust systems for the GL2's for around $1,800. And they are guaranteed to not crack or rust!! In a message dated 8/26/2014 5:11:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, n355tc@comcast.net writes: You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with my kit from glasair. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Bubblehead Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III --> Glasair-List message posted by: "Bubblehead" At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet for the oil cooler. -------- John Keller, TX RV-8 N247TD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 p; -Matt Dral============ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III From: John Dalman Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler? On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, wrote: > You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with > my kit from glasair. > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: Bubblehead > To: glasair-list@matronics.com > Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM > Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III > > > At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on > the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I > like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. > > What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing > they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the > outlet for the oil cooler. > > -------- > John > Keller, TX > RV-8 N247TD > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 > > > p; -Matt Dral============ > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:13 PM PST US From: n355tc@comcast.net Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:11 PM PST US From: Dick Gossen Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot air from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic. I've gotten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any weather. If I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair III was not designed to fly slow. You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly larger coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided to fly faster and that fixed it just fine. Dick Gossen N90GG On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman wrote: > Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler? > > On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, wrote: > You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with my kit from glasair. > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: Bubblehead > To: glasair-list@matronics.com > Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM > Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III > > > At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. > > What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet for the oil cooler. > > -------- > John > Keller, TX > RV-8 N247TD > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 > > > > > > > > p; -Matt Dral============ > > > > > > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III From: John Dalman Thank you for the additional information. In hot weather my oil runs about 200 in cruise and that seems ok to me. It never goes above 215 in climb, but two CHTs go to about 410 or 415 in climb on hot days. I am going to put new baffles on this winter, which should help. Thanks again, John On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Dick Gossen wrote: > On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot > air from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic. I' ve > gotten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any weather. > If I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair III was not > designed to fly slow. > You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly > larger coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided t o > fly faster and that fixed it just fine. > Dick Gossen > N90GG > > On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman wrote: > > Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler? > On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, wrote: > >> You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came wit h >> my kit from glasair. >> >> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: Bubblehead >> To: glasair-list@matronics.com >> Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM >> Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III >> >> >> At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver >> on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 b ut >> I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. >> >> What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing >> they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the >> outlet for the oil cooler. >> >> -------- >> John >> Keller, TX >> RV-8 N247TD >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> p; -Matt Dral============ >> >> >> >> * >> >> target="_blank">http://www.matron tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List ">http://www.matronhref ="http://forums.matronics.com/ ">http:/ /forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > =========== atronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III From: John Dalman Thanks. Good information. On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:47 PM, wrote: > I'm not flying yet but I know of no problems with temps using this setup. > I also know of no one who has redesigned the oil cooler system in the > glasair III. > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > *From: *John Dalman > *To: *glasair-list@matronics.com > *Sent: *August 26, 2014 at 7:18 PM > *Subject: *Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III > > Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler? > On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, wrote: > >> You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with >> my kit from glasair. >> >> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> >> From: Bubblehead >> To: glasair-list@matronics.com >> Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM >> Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III >> >> >> At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver >> on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but >> I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. >> >> What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing >> they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the >> outlet for the oil cooler. >> >> -------- >> John >> Keller, TX >> RV-8 N247TD >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> p; -Matt Dral============ >> >> >> >> * >> >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:54 PM PST US From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III In a message dated 8/26/2014 7:18:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jdalmansr@gmail.com writes: Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler? On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <_n355tc@comcast.net_ (mailto:n355tc@comcast.net) > wrote: You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with my kit from glasair. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Bubblehead Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III --> Glasair-List message posted by: "Bubblehead" <_jdalmansr@gmail.com_ (mailto:jdalmansr@gmail.com) > At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet for the oil cooler. -------- John Keller, TX RV-8 N247TD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 p; -Matt Dral============ target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:41 PM PST US From: Craymondw@aol.com Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III Back in the early 1990's a GL111 was placed in a wind tunnel and found that the front of the cowling was buffeting. The builder redesigned the cowling by bringing the inlets forward. With that in mind, I can see why the slower a three flies the worse the buffet and the hotter it runs. . In a message dated 8/26/2014 8:27:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gossend@gmail.com writes: On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot air from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic. I've gotten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any weather. If I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair III was not designed to fly slow. You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly larger coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided to fly faster and that fixed it just fine. Dick Gossen N90GG On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman <_jdalmansr@gmail.com_ (mailto:jdalmansr@gmail.com) > wrote: Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler? On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, <_n355tc@comcast.net_ (mailto:n355tc@comcast.net) > wrote: You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with my kit from glasair. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Bubblehead Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III --> Glasair-List message posted by: "Bubblehead" <_jdalmansr@gmail.com_ (mailto:jdalmansr@gmail.com) > At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I like to look at other people's planes and learn from them. What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing they are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet for the oil cooler. -------- John Keller, TX RV-8 N247TD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 p; -Matt Dral============ target="_blank">_http://www.matrontp://forums.matronics.com_ (tp://forums.matronics.com/) _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:55 PM PST US From: Jeff Siebenhaar Subject: RE: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III Just curious, which two cylinders ? ________________________________ From: owner-glasair-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of John Dalman Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 6:37:59 PM Subject: Re: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III Thank you for the additional information. In hot weather my oil runs about 200 in cruise and that seems ok to me. It never goes above 215 in climb, but two CHTs go to about 410 or 415 in climb on hot days. I am going to pu t new baffles on this winter, which should help. Thanks again, John On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Dick Gossen > wrote: On my airplane, the answer is yes and no. The louvers exit a lot of hot air from the oil cooler, but oil temp is still and always problematic. I've go tten used to 210 degrees at 60% cruise power in just about any weather. If I run harder, the temp comes down! Conclusion: the Glasair III was not desi gned to fly slow. You might note that some III's have been modified with significantly larger coolers (and louvers) - I considered that, but then just decided to fly fa ster and that fixed it just fine. Dick Gossen N90GG On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:17 PM, John Dalman > wrote: Do they work well? Do you get good cooling from the oil cooler? On Aug 26, 2014 4:12 PM, > wr ote: You are correct. They are for cooling with the oil cooler. Mine came with m y kit from glasair. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Bubblehead Sent: August 26, 2014 at 4:00 PM Subject: Glasair-List: louvers on Glasair III o:jdalmansr@gmail.com>> At Oshkosh this year I noticed that a lot of Glasair IIIs have a louver on the right side of the cowl. I don't have a Glasair - I fly an RV-8 but I l ike to look at other people's planes and learn from them. What are the louvers for, and where can there be bought? I am guessing the y are either cooling vents so more hot air exits the cowl or are the outlet for the oil cooler. -------- John Keller, TX RV-8 N247TD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429383#429383 p; -Matt Dral============ target="_blank">http://www.matrontp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Glasair-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message glasair-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Glasair-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/glasair-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/glasair-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.