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1. 04:47 AM - airplane plans (Gsrth@aol.com)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: airplane plans (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
3. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: Postings (Ron Eason)
4. 05:21 PM - Re: Re: Postings (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
5. 07:55 PM - Re: Re: Postings (Ron Eason)
6. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: Postings (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
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--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: Gsrth@aol.com
Drew,
Sounds like an interesting project. Hope it goes well.
I'm also in the process of selecting a project to build. I would like
to do a plans only project and have narrowed my choices down to a Horizon I,
Maranda S14H, or the RagWing Stork. I would be particularly interested in what
you think of the plans for the Stork. The information I have is it is a
fairly newly drawn plan without a lot of flight experience behind it. I like the
concept, but wonder if it wouldn't be a little more difficult for a first time
builder than one of the others. What do you think?
Garth
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--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
The Stork plans really encompass very little new. There aren't a lot of them flying,
but they are directly derived from the Fisher/Ison aircraft designs. The
slots and rigging system are non-typical homebuilt. The slots make it the
aircraft that it is; an extremely efficient STOL machine. I wouldn't use Roger
Mann's rigging system. He uses throttle cable for his aileron controls, in
order to simplify the wing removal system. If I were to build it, I would lift
the control system from a Super Cub. I know a guy who built the fuselage in
a long weekend, and did a good job of it. The wings are similar in effort to
building a biplane, what with the slots and flaps.
I go back and forth often on whether to do a Stork or a Super Cub clone for my
homebuilt project. I want a STOL machine; and I would like a standard design
like the SC, but most of the welding work is "just for looks" on the structure.
The Stork is "ugly" but is pure function. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't
like to reinvent the wheel, but detest doing an ounce of superfluous work for
appearance sake.
Well, that's probably more than I needed to say, but that's where I am on this
project.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: Gsrth@aol.com
Subject: Homebuilt-List: airplane plans
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: Gsrth@aol.com
>
> Drew,
> Sounds like an interesting project. Hope it goes well.
> I'm also in the process of selecting a project to build. I
> would like
> to do a plans only project and have narrowed my choices down to a
> Horizon I,
> Maranda S14H, or the RagWing Stork. I would be particularly
> interested in what
> you think of the plans for the Stork. The information I have is
> it is a
> fairly newly drawn plan without a lot of flight experience behind
> it. I like the
> concept, but wonder if it wouldn't be a little more difficult for
> a first time
> builder than one of the others. What do you think?
> Garth
>
>
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--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Ron Eason" <ron@jrl-engineering.com>
Drew,
I thank you for working with these kids and sparking their interest in
aviation. I was inspired by a person like you in a similar way. I am a
Aeronautical Engineer with a background as a rocket test engineer working on
the Apollo Lunar Assent Module engine and the Gemini secondary propulsion
rendezvous technology for Bell Aerosystems.
You see you may never know how you will influence these kids.
I am building a KR2.
Thanks,
Ron
P.S This is my way of thanking all who helped guide me along my path.
----- Original Message -----
From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
>
> Hi Franz,
>
> I'm on several lists, and just don't know which one I'm going to build.
But, I'm not in the same location of my shop, so I get to dream and decide
until December or so.
>
> I have plans for:
>
> Barrows BearHawk
> Ragwing Stork
> Wag-A-Bond
> Sportsman 2+2
> Sport Trainer/Super Sport/Observer
> Texas Parasol
>
> I've been an A&P for 8-9 months, now and learning how to be an avionics
tech. I found this list when signing up for the aeroelectrics list. My
"project" is to build a homebuilt as part of a series of presentations to
4th to 6th grade students, where each class will build a couple wing-ribs or
other simple piece, under my direct supervision. The airworthy parts, each
child will sign with a sharpie, so that they will have helped build a "real
airplane" and their name will be on it. I will be doing this in conjunction
with several educational/aviation organizations.
>
> I think it's a neat project that will potentially help aviation and I like
to talk about it, as you can probably tell.
>
> I am also active soliciting advice relevant to homebuilts, A&P/Avionics
career paths, and anything aviation-related.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> Drew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Franz Fux <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:41 am
> Subject: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
>
> > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Franz Fux"
> > <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> > Hi Drew,
> > I think most of us builder are more active in the list of the
> > respectiveairplane we are building. I don't think that I have seen
> > very many postings
> > over the last two months. I myself belong to an RV7 group which is
> > veryactive,
> > Franz
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com
> > [owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > To: homebuilt-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> >
> >
> > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> >
> > I just joined the list. Is this a fairly new list, or just not
> > very active?
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rwilliams <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:27 am
> > Subject: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> >
> > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "rwilliams"
> > > <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > > Every day I get an e-mail from the homebuilt list. Nearly always
> > > it reads,
> > > "Total Messages Posted: 0"
> > >
> > > I wish more folks would participate, but until that happens, why
> > > not set it
> > > up so that nothing is e-mailed out if N=0?
> > >
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--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Ron,
You're doing what I wanted to do when I was five. However, I had many naysayers
and no encouragers. So, I chickened out, and chose less challenging paths.
Now, I'm 39 and starting over again as an A&P and trying to make a difference.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Eason <ron@jrl-engineering.com>
Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Ron Eason" <ron@jrl-
> engineering.com>
> Drew,
>
> I thank you for working with these kids and sparking their
> interest in
> aviation. I was inspired by a person like you in a similar way.
> I am a
> Aeronautical Engineer with a background as a rocket test engineer
> working on
> the Apollo Lunar Assent Module engine and the Gemini secondary
> propulsionrendezvous technology for Bell Aerosystems.
> You see you may never know how you will influence these kids.
> I am building a KR2.
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
> P.S This is my way of thanking all who helped guide me along my path.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
>
>
> > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> >
> > Hi Franz,
> >
> > I'm on several lists, and just don't know which one I'm going to
> build.But, I'm not in the same location of my shop, so I get to
> dream and decide
> until December or so.
> >
> > I have plans for:
> >
> > Barrows BearHawk
> > Ragwing Stork
> > Wag-A-Bond
> > Sportsman 2+2
> > Sport Trainer/Super Sport/Observer
> > Texas Parasol
> >
> > I've been an A&P for 8-9 months, now and learning how to be an
> avionicstech. I found this list when signing up for the
> aeroelectrics list. My
> "project" is to build a homebuilt as part of a series of
> presentations to
> 4th to 6th grade students, where each class will build a couple
> wing-ribs or
> other simple piece, under my direct supervision. The airworthy
> parts, each
> child will sign with a sharpie, so that they will have helped
> build a "real
> airplane" and their name will be on it. I will be doing this in
> conjunctionwith several educational/aviation organizations.
> >
> > I think it's a neat project that will potentially help aviation
> and I like
> to talk about it, as you can probably tell.
> >
> > I am also active soliciting advice relevant to homebuilts,
> A&P/Avionicscareer paths, and anything aviation-related.
> >
> > Thanks for your response.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Franz Fux <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:41 am
> > Subject: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> >
> > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Franz Fux"
> > > <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> > > Hi Drew,
> > > I think most of us builder are more active in the list of the
> > > respectiveairplane we are building. I don't think that I have seen
> > > very many postings
> > > over the last two months. I myself belong to an RV7 group
> which is
> > > veryactive,
> > > Franz
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > > To: homebuilt-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > >
> > >
> > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > >
> > > I just joined the list. Is this a fairly new list, or just not
> > > very active?
> > >
> > > Drew
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rwilliams <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:27 am
> > > Subject: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > >
> > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "rwilliams"
> > > > <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > > > Every day I get an e-mail from the homebuilt list. Nearly
> always> > > it reads,
> > > > "Total Messages Posted: 0"
> > > >
> > > > I wish more folks would participate, but until that happens, why
> > > > not set it
> > > > up so that nothing is e-mailed out if N=0?
> > > >
> > > >
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--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Ron Eason" <ron@jrl-engineering.com>
Drew,
N0 ONE can take your dreams and desires away from you, don't give up on
anything, but have patience.
I am 63 now and I owe my path in life to my dad. His motto was, know
something, do something and be something [ I think it was a Kettering quote]
achieved someone something, he advised me to follow my hearts desire and he
would help as much as possible. I left home with $200.00 a new suite and
no auto, after giving my car to my brother, to work for Bell Aerosystems.
Dad had a 8th grade education and two patents to his name with General
Motors attached.
I have no patents, and a BS Aeronautical Degree, but I did help put men on
the moon and we brought them back, and it was fun. I would have worked for
nothing at all, to have the chance to contribute to this noble undertaking.
May God Bless you in whatever you are doing.
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
>
> Ron,
>
> You're doing what I wanted to do when I was five. However, I had many
naysayers and no encouragers. So, I chickened out, and chose less
challenging paths.
>
> Now, I'm 39 and starting over again as an A&P and trying to make a
difference.
>
> Drew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Eason <ron@jrl-engineering.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:55 pm
> Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
>
> > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Ron Eason" <ron@jrl-
> > engineering.com>
> > Drew,
> >
> > I thank you for working with these kids and sparking their
> > interest in
> > aviation. I was inspired by a person like you in a similar way.
> > I am a
> > Aeronautical Engineer with a background as a rocket test engineer
> > working on
> > the Apollo Lunar Assent Module engine and the Gemini secondary
> > propulsion rendezvous technology for Bell Aerosystems.
> > You see you may never know how you will influence these kids.
> > I am building a KR2.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ron
> >
> > P.S This is my way of thanking all who helped guide me along my path.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> > To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> >
> >
> > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > >
> > > Hi Franz,
> > >
> > > I'm on several lists, and just don't know which one I'm going to
> > build.But, I'm not in the same location of my shop, so I get to
> > dream and decide
> > until December or so.
> > >
> > > I have plans for:
> > >
> > > Barrows BearHawk
> > > Ragwing Stork
> > > Wag-A-Bond
> > > Sportsman 2+2
> > > Sport Trainer/Super Sport/Observer
> > > Texas Parasol
> > >
> > > I've been an A&P for 8-9 months, now and learning how to be an
> > avionicstech. I found this list when signing up for the
> > aeroelectrics list. My
> > "project" is to build a homebuilt as part of a series of
> > presentations to
> > 4th to 6th grade students, where each class will build a couple
> > wing-ribs or
> > other simple piece, under my direct supervision. The airworthy
> > parts, each
> > child will sign with a sharpie, so that they will have helped
> > build a "real
> > airplane" and their name will be on it. I will be doing this in
> > conjunctionwith several educational/aviation organizations.
> > >
> > > I think it's a neat project that will potentially help aviation
> > and I like
> > to talk about it, as you can probably tell.
> > >
> > > I am also active soliciting advice relevant to homebuilts,
> > A&P/Avionicscareer paths, and anything aviation-related.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response.
> > >
> > > Drew
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Franz Fux <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> > > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:41 am
> > > Subject: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > >
> > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Franz Fux"
> > > > <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> > > > Hi Drew,
> > > > I think most of us builder are more active in the list of the
> > > > respectiveairplane we are building. I don't think that I have seen
> > > > very many postings
> > > > over the last two months. I myself belong to an RV7 group
> > which is
> > > > veryactive,
> > > > Franz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > [owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > > > To: homebuilt-list@matronics.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > > >
> > > > I just joined the list. Is this a fairly new list, or just not
> > > > very active?
> > > >
> > > > Drew
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rwilliams <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > > > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:27 am
> > > > Subject: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > > >
> > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "rwilliams"
> > > > > <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > > > > Every day I get an e-mail from the homebuilt list. Nearly
> > always> > > it reads,
> > > > > "Total Messages Posted: 0"
> > > > >
> > > > > I wish more folks would participate, but until that happens, why
> > > > > not set it
> > > > > up so that nothing is e-mailed out if N=0?
>
>
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--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Thanks for the sentiments. I am currently studying, though I found out from my
wife, today, that a position even closer to home has opened up for an A&P.
Again, thanks for the encouragement.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Eason <ron@jrl-engineering.com>
Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Ron Eason" <ron@jrl-
> engineering.com>
> Drew,
>
> N0 ONE can take your dreams and desires away from you, don't give
> up on
> anything, but have patience.
> I am 63 now and I owe my path in life to my dad. His motto was, know
> something, do something and be something [ I think it was a
> Kettering quote]
> achieved someone something, he advised me to follow my hearts
> desire and he
> would help as much as possible. I left home with $200.00 a new
> suite and
> no auto, after giving my car to my brother, to work for Bell
> Aerosystems.Dad had a 8th grade education and two patents to his
> name with General
> Motors attached.
> I have no patents, and a BS Aeronautical Degree, but I did help
> put men on
> the moon and we brought them back, and it was fun. I would have
> worked for
> nothing at all, to have the chance to contribute to this noble
> undertaking.
> May God Bless you in whatever you are doing.
>
> Ron
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
>
>
> > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > You're doing what I wanted to do when I was five. However, I
> had many
> naysayers and no encouragers. So, I chickened out, and chose less
> challenging paths.
> >
> > Now, I'm 39 and starting over again as an A&P and trying to make a
> difference.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ron Eason <ron@jrl-engineering.com>
> > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:55 pm
> > Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> >
> > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Ron Eason" <ron@jrl-
> > > engineering.com>
> > > Drew,
> > >
> > > I thank you for working with these kids and sparking their
> > > interest in
> > > aviation. I was inspired by a person like you in a similar way.
> > > I am a
> > > Aeronautical Engineer with a background as a rocket test engineer
> > > working on
> > > the Apollo Lunar Assent Module engine and the Gemini secondary
> > > propulsion rendezvous technology for Bell Aerosystems.
> > > You see you may never know how you will influence these kids.
> > > I am building a KR2.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ron
> > >
> > > P.S This is my way of thanking all who helped guide me along
> my path.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> > > To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > > >
> > > > Hi Franz,
> > > >
> > > > I'm on several lists, and just don't know which one I'm
> going to
> > > build.But, I'm not in the same location of my shop, so I get to
> > > dream and decide
> > > until December or so.
> > > >
> > > > I have plans for:
> > > >
> > > > Barrows BearHawk
> > > > Ragwing Stork
> > > > Wag-A-Bond
> > > > Sportsman 2+2
> > > > Sport Trainer/Super Sport/Observer
> > > > Texas Parasol
> > > >
> > > > I've been an A&P for 8-9 months, now and learning how to be an
> > > avionicstech. I found this list when signing up for the
> > > aeroelectrics list. My
> > > "project" is to build a homebuilt as part of a series of
> > > presentations to
> > > 4th to 6th grade students, where each class will build a couple
> > > wing-ribs or
> > > other simple piece, under my direct supervision. The airworthy
> > > parts, each
> > > child will sign with a sharpie, so that they will have helped
> > > build a "real
> > > airplane" and their name will be on it. I will be doing this in
> > > conjunctionwith several educational/aviation organizations.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's a neat project that will potentially help aviation
> > > and I like
> > > to talk about it, as you can probably tell.
> > > >
> > > > I am also active soliciting advice relevant to homebuilts,
> > > A&P/Avionicscareer paths, and anything aviation-related.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your response.
> > > >
> > > > Drew
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Franz Fux <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> > > > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:41 am
> > > > Subject: RE: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > > >
> > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Franz Fux"
> > > > > <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
> > > > > Hi Drew,
> > > > > I think most of us builder are more active in the list of the
> > > > > respectiveairplane we are building. I don't think that I
> have seen
> > > > > very many postings
> > > > > over the last two months. I myself belong to an RV7 group
> > > which is
> > > > > veryactive,
> > > > > Franz
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > > [owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > > drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > > > > To: homebuilt-list@matronics.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by:
> drew.schumann@us.army.mil> > > >
> > > > > I just joined the list. Is this a fairly new list, or
> just not
> > > > > very active?
> > > > >
> > > > > Drew
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rwilliams <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > > > > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 2:27 am
> > > > > Subject: Homebuilt-List: Postings
> > > > >
> > > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "rwilliams"
> > > > > > <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> > > > > > Every day I get an e-mail from the homebuilt list. Nearly
> > > always> > > it reads,
> > > > > > "Total Messages Posted: 0"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wish more folks would participate, but until that
> happens, why
> > > > > > not set it
> > > > > > up so that nothing is e-mailed out if N=0?
> >
> >
>
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