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Thu 08/14/03


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     1. 04:05 PM - Re: Flying Milk Stools (Al Latham)
     2. 05:40 PM - Re: Flying Milk Stools (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:05:18 PM PST US
    From: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net>
    Subject: Re: Flying Milk Stools
    --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net> Drew, I was on the Corvair list until Mark changed to the other server and I thought I was on it but guess I'm not and haven't rejoined. Our Piper inventory is pair of Tri-Pacers (one conversion, one stock), a Vagabond and a J-5A. My first flight was in a Vagabond with a O-145 Lyc. I now have an engine but it will most likely go into my Aeronca K, this aircraft was given to me by a elderly gentleman that figured at 70+ he probably wasn't going to get around to rebuilding it... After flying a 160 Tri-Pacer there is no way I can go back to a 135. The Clipper project sounds REAL GOOD, almost too good to be true those things bring some serious bucks in flying condition. Would make a great resale project or keeper for that matter. I'd consider it but the above mentioned projects is only about half of what we have. Were are you located? Al Latham ----- Original Message ----- From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil> Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil > > LMAO! > > Say, Al, aren't you on another list I'm on, like SWPC or Corvair, or Tailwind??? The reason that is soooo funny, is that I received a free Colt in 1999, and it came in white 5 gallon buckets. The frame and wings, I drove from Indianapolis to Des Moines strapped on top of a 1990 Ford Ranger. Note to self, use metal strapping tape to tie the frame and suspension together when doing this in a 40 kt cross-wind. It was very nearly the death of me, several times. I used to have a picture of this, but have misplaced it. > > I think the cheap Tri-Pacers are universally 135 hp O290 jobbies. Thus the cheap price. > > Drew > > I know a guy with a Clipper with an O290 (I think) that is complete, non-flying. He's asking $9000, but a little bird tells me he'll take $6000, if push comes to shove. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Al Latham <geebeed@grm.net> > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:49 am > Subject: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net> > > > > Drew, > > > > Any of those projects have a 150 or 160 on them? I sure need > > another project > > that comes to you in 5 gallon buckets... > > > > In 1976 I paid what was thought to be an insane amount of cash for a > > Tri-Pacer, $5500.00, 3 year old fabric, 952 hours > > since new 160 Lyc., Narco MK12, ADF and Transponder. She taught > > me, a family > > friend, my girlfriend (at the time) > > and both of my parents up to solo ( dad had to drop out due to medical > > reasons and my mom decided not to continue). > > 8812D is currently in the shop awaiting fabric and a new shiny 180 > > Lyc., the > > nose gear fell off along the way. I'm thinking > > of getting another and keeping it stock for my daughters to fly. I > > also have > > an airframe that I rescued from in front of a restaurant > > along the interstate in Florida, I bought it for the wings (perfect > > condition) for $400.00. > > > > Al Latham > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil> > > To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: RE: Homebuilt-List Digest: 6 Msgs - > > 08/12/03 > > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil > > > > > > Right. Which is exactly what I said. For $15,000, you get a > > project.And amazingly, as a new A&P, I'd be glad to have a > > project, especially one > > that uses a totally different set of skills than what I normally > > use at > > work. > > > > > > $25,000 is what a Tri-Pacer will cost, whether you get a good > > one, or > > whether you buy a project and trade off working and flying over a > > period of > > say... 5 years. In the end, it doesn't satisfy the "experimental" > > urge, and > > it is much less capable than the Bearhawk. > > > > > > I currently have the line on a $14,900 and $15,900 Tri-Pacer, > > both of > > which fly, and several projects between $4,000 to $9,000 that are > > in pieces. > > > > > > _- > > _- > > _- > > _- > > ====================================================================== > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:40:24 PM PST US
    From: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
    Subject: Re: Flying Milk Stools
    --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil I thought I recognized your name. I am currently located in Balad Air Base, which is 30 or so miles north of Baghdad. I normally live in central Iowa; Newton, where the Maytag washing machines are produced. I also have another Clipper project in my back pocket, if it is still there I'll try to buy it when I get home. The owner will never redo it, I am convinced, but he wavers from day to day as to whether he wants to sell. I must admit, I've never even seen a Clipper before. My assumption is that they look like a Pacer, or a fat Vagabond? Well, I need to be off to my work. Drew ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Latham <geebeed@grm.net> Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net> > > Drew, > > I was on the Corvair list until Mark changed to the other server > and I > thought I was on it but guess I'm not and haven't rejoined. > Our Piper inventory is pair of Tri-Pacers (one conversion, one > stock), a > Vagabond and a J-5A. My first flight was in a Vagabond > with a O-145 Lyc. I now have an engine but it will most likely go > into my > Aeronca K, this aircraft was given to me by a elderly > gentleman that figured at 70+ he probably wasn't going to get > around to > rebuilding it... > > After flying a 160 Tri-Pacer there is no way I can go back to a > 135. The > Clipper project sounds REAL GOOD, almost too good to be true > those things bring some serious bucks in flying condition. Would > make a > great resale project or keeper for that matter. I'd consider it > but the > above mentioned projects is only about half of what we have. > > Were are you located? > > Al Latham > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil> > To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil > > > > LMAO! > > > > Say, Al, aren't you on another list I'm on, like SWPC or > Corvair, or > Tailwind??? The reason that is soooo funny, is that I received a > free Colt > in 1999, and it came in white 5 gallon buckets. The frame and > wings, I > drove from Indianapolis to Des Moines strapped on top of a 1990 > Ford Ranger. > Note to self, use metal strapping tape to tie the frame and suspension > together when doing this in a 40 kt cross-wind. It was very > nearly the > death of me, several times. I used to have a picture of this, but > havemisplaced it. > > > > I think the cheap Tri-Pacers are universally 135 hp O290 > jobbies. Thus > the cheap price. > > > > Drew > > > > I know a guy with a Clipper with an O290 (I think) that is complete, > non-flying. He's asking $9000, but a little bird tells me he'll > take $6000, > if push comes to shove. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Al Latham <geebeed@grm.net> > > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:49 am > > Subject: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools > > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham" > <geebeed@grm.net>> > > > > Drew, > > > > > > Any of those projects have a 150 or 160 on them? I sure need > > > another project > > > that comes to you in 5 gallon buckets... > > > > > > In 1976 I paid what was thought to be an insane amount of cash > for a > > > Tri-Pacer, $5500.00, 3 year old fabric, 952 hours > > > since new 160 Lyc., Narco MK12, ADF and Transponder. She taught > > > me, a family > > > friend, my girlfriend (at the time) > > > and both of my parents up to solo ( dad had to drop out due to > medical> > reasons and my mom decided not to continue). > > > 8812D is currently in the shop awaiting fabric and a new shiny 180 > > > Lyc., the > > > nose gear fell off along the way. I'm thinking > > > of getting another and keeping it stock for my daughters to > fly. I > > > also have > > > an airframe that I rescued from in front of a restaurant > > > along the interstate in Florida, I bought it for the wings > (perfect> > condition) for $400.00. > > > > > > Al Latham > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil> > > > To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com> > > > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: RE: Homebuilt-List Digest: 6 Msgs > - > > > 08/12/03 > > > > > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil > > > > > > > > Right. Which is exactly what I said. For $15,000, you get a > > > project.And amazingly, as a new A&P, I'd be glad to have a > > > project, especially one > > > that uses a totally different set of skills than what I normally > > > use at > > > work. > > > > > > > > $25,000 is what a Tri-Pacer will cost, whether you get a good > > > one, or > > > whether you buy a project and trade off working and flying > over a > > > period of > > > say... 5 years. In the end, it doesn't satisfy the "experimental" > > > urge, and > > > it is much less capable than the Bearhawk. > > > > > > > > I currently have the line on a $14,900 and $15,900 Tri-Pacer, > > > both of > > > which fly, and several projects between $4,000 to $9,000 that are > > > in pieces. > > > > > > > > > _- > > > _- > > > _- > > > _- > > > > ======================================================================> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _- > _- > _- > _- > ====================================================================== > > > >




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