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Subject: | Re: Flying Milk Stools |
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net>
Drew,
I was on the Corvair list until Mark changed to the other server and I
thought I was on it but guess I'm not and haven't rejoined.
Our Piper inventory is pair of Tri-Pacers (one conversion, one stock), a
Vagabond and a J-5A. My first flight was in a Vagabond
with a O-145 Lyc. I now have an engine but it will most likely go into my
Aeronca K, this aircraft was given to me by a elderly
gentleman that figured at 70+ he probably wasn't going to get around to
rebuilding it...
After flying a 160 Tri-Pacer there is no way I can go back to a 135. The
Clipper project sounds REAL GOOD, almost too good to be true
those things bring some serious bucks in flying condition. Would make a
great resale project or keeper for that matter. I'd consider it but the
above mentioned projects is only about half of what we have.
Were are you located?
Al Latham
----- Original Message -----
From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
>
> LMAO!
>
> Say, Al, aren't you on another list I'm on, like SWPC or Corvair, or
Tailwind??? The reason that is soooo funny, is that I received a free Colt
in 1999, and it came in white 5 gallon buckets. The frame and wings, I
drove from Indianapolis to Des Moines strapped on top of a 1990 Ford Ranger.
Note to self, use metal strapping tape to tie the frame and suspension
together when doing this in a 40 kt cross-wind. It was very nearly the
death of me, several times. I used to have a picture of this, but have
misplaced it.
>
> I think the cheap Tri-Pacers are universally 135 hp O290 jobbies. Thus
the cheap price.
>
> Drew
>
> I know a guy with a Clipper with an O290 (I think) that is complete,
non-flying. He's asking $9000, but a little bird tells me he'll take $6000,
if push comes to shove.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Al Latham <geebeed@grm.net>
> Date: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:49 am
> Subject: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools
>
> > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net>
> >
> > Drew,
> >
> > Any of those projects have a 150 or 160 on them? I sure need
> > another project
> > that comes to you in 5 gallon buckets...
> >
> > In 1976 I paid what was thought to be an insane amount of cash for a
> > Tri-Pacer, $5500.00, 3 year old fabric, 952 hours
> > since new 160 Lyc., Narco MK12, ADF and Transponder. She taught
> > me, a family
> > friend, my girlfriend (at the time)
> > and both of my parents up to solo ( dad had to drop out due to medical
> > reasons and my mom decided not to continue).
> > 8812D is currently in the shop awaiting fabric and a new shiny 180
> > Lyc., the
> > nose gear fell off along the way. I'm thinking
> > of getting another and keeping it stock for my daughters to fly. I
> > also have
> > an airframe that I rescued from in front of a restaurant
> > along the interstate in Florida, I bought it for the wings (perfect
> > condition) for $400.00.
> >
> > Al Latham
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> > To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: RE: Homebuilt-List Digest: 6 Msgs -
> > 08/12/03
> >
> > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > >
> > > Right. Which is exactly what I said. For $15,000, you get a
> > project.And amazingly, as a new A&P, I'd be glad to have a
> > project, especially one
> > that uses a totally different set of skills than what I normally
> > use at
> > work.
> > >
> > > $25,000 is what a Tri-Pacer will cost, whether you get a good
> > one, or
> > whether you buy a project and trade off working and flying over a
> > period of
> > say... 5 years. In the end, it doesn't satisfy the "experimental"
> > urge, and
> > it is much less capable than the Bearhawk.
> > >
> > > I currently have the line on a $14,900 and $15,900 Tri-Pacer,
> > both of
> > which fly, and several projects between $4,000 to $9,000 that are
> > in pieces.
> >
> >
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > ======================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flying Milk Stools |
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
I thought I recognized your name. I am currently located in Balad Air Base, which
is 30 or so miles north of Baghdad. I normally live in central Iowa; Newton,
where the Maytag washing machines are produced.
I also have another Clipper project in my back pocket, if it is still there I'll
try to buy it when I get home. The owner will never redo it, I am convinced,
but he wavers from day to day as to whether he wants to sell.
I must admit, I've never even seen a Clipper before. My assumption is that they
look like a Pacer, or a fat Vagabond?
Well, I need to be off to my work.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Latham <geebeed@grm.net>
Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools
> --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham" <geebeed@grm.net>
>
> Drew,
>
> I was on the Corvair list until Mark changed to the other server
> and I
> thought I was on it but guess I'm not and haven't rejoined.
> Our Piper inventory is pair of Tri-Pacers (one conversion, one
> stock), a
> Vagabond and a J-5A. My first flight was in a Vagabond
> with a O-145 Lyc. I now have an engine but it will most likely go
> into my
> Aeronca K, this aircraft was given to me by a elderly
> gentleman that figured at 70+ he probably wasn't going to get
> around to
> rebuilding it...
>
> After flying a 160 Tri-Pacer there is no way I can go back to a
> 135. The
> Clipper project sounds REAL GOOD, almost too good to be true
> those things bring some serious bucks in flying condition. Would
> make a
> great resale project or keeper for that matter. I'd consider it
> but the
> above mentioned projects is only about half of what we have.
>
> Were are you located?
>
> Al Latham
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools
>
>
> > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> >
> > LMAO!
> >
> > Say, Al, aren't you on another list I'm on, like SWPC or
> Corvair, or
> Tailwind??? The reason that is soooo funny, is that I received a
> free Colt
> in 1999, and it came in white 5 gallon buckets. The frame and
> wings, I
> drove from Indianapolis to Des Moines strapped on top of a 1990
> Ford Ranger.
> Note to self, use metal strapping tape to tie the frame and suspension
> together when doing this in a 40 kt cross-wind. It was very
> nearly the
> death of me, several times. I used to have a picture of this, but
> havemisplaced it.
> >
> > I think the cheap Tri-Pacers are universally 135 hp O290
> jobbies. Thus
> the cheap price.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > I know a guy with a Clipper with an O290 (I think) that is complete,
> non-flying. He's asking $9000, but a little bird tells me he'll
> take $6000,
> if push comes to shove.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Al Latham <geebeed@grm.net>
> > Date: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:49 am
> > Subject: Homebuilt-List: Flying Milk Stools
> >
> > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: "Al Latham"
> <geebeed@grm.net>> >
> > > Drew,
> > >
> > > Any of those projects have a 150 or 160 on them? I sure need
> > > another project
> > > that comes to you in 5 gallon buckets...
> > >
> > > In 1976 I paid what was thought to be an insane amount of cash
> for a
> > > Tri-Pacer, $5500.00, 3 year old fabric, 952 hours
> > > since new 160 Lyc., Narco MK12, ADF and Transponder. She taught
> > > me, a family
> > > friend, my girlfriend (at the time)
> > > and both of my parents up to solo ( dad had to drop out due to
> medical> > reasons and my mom decided not to continue).
> > > 8812D is currently in the shop awaiting fabric and a new shiny 180
> > > Lyc., the
> > > nose gear fell off along the way. I'm thinking
> > > of getting another and keeping it stock for my daughters to
> fly. I
> > > also have
> > > an airframe that I rescued from in front of a restaurant
> > > along the interstate in Florida, I bought it for the wings
> (perfect> > condition) for $400.00.
> > >
> > > Al Latham
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> > > To: <homebuilt-list@matronics.com>
> > > Subject: Re: Homebuilt-List: RE: Homebuilt-List Digest: 6 Msgs
> -
> > > 08/12/03
> > >
> > > > --> Homebuilt-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > > >
> > > > Right. Which is exactly what I said. For $15,000, you get a
> > > project.And amazingly, as a new A&P, I'd be glad to have a
> > > project, especially one
> > > that uses a totally different set of skills than what I normally
> > > use at
> > > work.
> > > >
> > > > $25,000 is what a Tri-Pacer will cost, whether you get a good
> > > one, or
> > > whether you buy a project and trade off working and flying
> over a
> > > period of
> > > say... 5 years. In the end, it doesn't satisfy the "experimental"
> > > urge, and
> > > it is much less capable than the Bearhawk.
> > > >
> > > > I currently have the line on a $14,900 and $15,900 Tri-Pacer,
> > > both of
> > > which fly, and several projects between $4,000 to $9,000 that are
> > > in pieces.
> > >
> > >
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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