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Mon 06/23/08


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 01:06 PM - best fuel economy (rubber314chicken)
     2. 02:07 PM - Re: best fuel economy (Nathan Wolfe)
     3. 02:57 PM - Re: best fuel economy (Franz Fux)
     4. 03:57 PM - Re: best fuel economy (Greg Fuchs (FB))
     5. 06:08 PM - Re: best fuel economy (Charlie England)
     6. 06:15 PM - Re: best fuel economy (Mike)
     7. 08:23 PM - Re: best fuel economy (A. F. Cacella)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:06:35 PM PST US
    Subject: best fuel economy
    From: "rubber314chicken" <rubber314chicken@gmail.com>
    If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what would you choose? The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per gallon in cruise. Are there any more fuel economic choices out there? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189404#189404


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    Time: 02:07:09 PM PST US
    From: "Nathan Wolfe" <nwolfe@stealthturtle.com>
    Subject: Re: best fuel economy
    The Cozy IV is pretty good and quick to boot. -Nate On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:04 PM, rubber314chicken < rubber314chicken@gmail.com> wrote: > rubber314chicken@gmail.com> > > If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what > would you choose? The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per > gallon in cruise. Are there any more fuel economic choices out there? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189404#189404 > > -- Nathan Wolfe Building an Experimental Airplane http://www.stealthturtle.com


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    Time: 02:57:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: best fuel economy
    From: Franz Fux <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
    There are many parameters that needs to be considered before a question like that can be answered. For instance: what would the application for the plane be, are ypou going to use for travel or recriation, how many seats do you need and so on and so fort, Franz On 23/06/08 2:04 PM, "Nathan Wolfe" <nwolfe@stealthturtle.com> wrote: > The Cozy IV is pretty good and quick to boot. > > -Nate > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 4:04 PM, rubber314chicken <rubber314chicken@gmail.com> > wrote: >> <rubber314chicken@gmail.com> >> >> If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what >> would you choose? The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per >> gallon in cruise. Are there any more fuel economic choices out there? >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189404#189404 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Franz Fux Director of Operations Last Frontier Heliskiing TLH Heliskiing Box 1118 Vernon, BC, V1T 6N4 www.lastfrontierheli.com www.tlhheli.com Ph: 250 558-7980 cell: 250 260-0433


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    Time: 03:57:33 PM PST US
    From: "Greg Fuchs (FB)" <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
    Subject: best fuel economy
    >If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what >would you choose? The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per >gallon in cruise. Are there any more fuel economic choices out there? The Europa and the Long-EZ can compete easily with that number. The Europa uses either the Rotax 912,912s, or 914 engine combo's. With the 912, it will do 50mph in economy mode. Not sure which engine the Long-EZ's use.


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    Time: 06:08:25 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: best fuel economy
    Greg Fuchs (FB) wrote: > > > >> If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what >> would you choose? The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per >> gallon in cruise. Are there any more fuel economic choices out there? >> > > The Europa and the Long-EZ can compete easily with that number. The Europa > uses either the Rotax 912,912s, or 914 engine combo's. With the 912, it will > do 50mph in economy mode. Not sure which engine the Long-EZ's use. Most of the Van's RV-x line will do close to 30 statute miles per gallon if you fly them at the lift/drag intersection, somewhere around 140 mph. They will do it even with the big engines. You never hear about it because most owners can't make themselves fly that slow when the plane will cruise at close to 200 (where they get 18-20 mpg if you're up at 10-11k feet). They will probably cost a bit more to build than a KR, but have a lot more room, short/grass field capability & much stronger resale market if you ever have to part with one. Charlie


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    Time: 06:15:02 PM PST US
    From: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net>
    Subject: best fuel economy
    Here are the Lancair Legacy numbers Low Speed nm/hr fuel rate fuel total rangenm range sm mpg nm mpg sm 200 8 67 1675.0 1926.3 25.0 28.8 Normal cruse 225 10.5 67 1435.7 1651.1 21.4 24.6 High Speed 250 18 67 930.6 1070.1 13.9 16.0 -----Original Message----- From: owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-homebuilt-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rubber314chicken Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Homebuilt-List: best fuel economy <rubber314chicken@gmail.com> If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what would you choose? The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per gallon in cruise. Are there any more fuel economic choices out there? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189404#189404 10/2/2007 11:10 AM 10/2/2007 11:10 AM


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    Time: 08:23:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: best fuel economy
    From: "A. F. Cacella" <aerofabco@juno.com>
    Yes, there are plenty of choices that get far better mpg figures than "...30ish...": They are called =sailplanes= and they get virtually infinite mpg. <sigh> Sorry, I couldn't resist: but seriously, the Moni self-launching (motor-glider) is a case-in-point that sips fuel while the small KFM or similar engine is running for takeoff and initial climb, then burns nothing at all ( infinite mpg ) while soaring cross-country with the engine turned off. It's one solution to the question, given that the question imposed no restraints such as "...more than 150-mph cruise speed with seating for four 275-lb. each adult males plus their golf clubs..." If one wants to go flying with minimal fuel expenses, the motor-gliders deserve a closer look. ....and, FWIW, the Rand-Robinson folks even proposed a motor-glider variant of their KR-1.... art On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:04:06 -0700 "rubber314chicken" <rubber314chicken@gmail.com> writes: > <rubber314chicken@gmail.com> > > If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, > what would you choose? The KR-2S looks like it has the best at > 30ish miles per gallon in cruise. Are there any more fuel economic > choices out there? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189404#189404 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Comfort your feet with a new pair of slippers. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3lwW2vq0CYXkXlIXjdXLHX0yKNZ28p7lTZIoKwgVrb1amVTJ/




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