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     2. 06:44 AM - Re: Better Cabin Heater (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Better Cabin Heater | 
      
      Hi,
      
      Yesterday was freezing inside my Europa XS with Jabiru 3300.  My wife has
      now refused to fly until I rectify the situation - she wants a 20 degree
      cabin!
      
      The current cabin heater layout is:
      * Opening on the cowl to provide a RAM air into the SCAT hose
      * Goes through a shallow metal V that's jubilleed to a horizontal running
      exhaust pipe on the left
      * Goes into a on/off box with pull cable
      * Goes through the firewall into a fibreglass box
      * Splits into 2
      * Goes to 2 ball valves above pilot and passenger footwell
      
      I didn't measure the SCAT hose, it's something in the region of 2 or 2.5"
      
      With the ball valves open, the airflow is pretty decent, but virtually no
      detectable heat
      Closing one valve completely, and the other to 20%, i can JUST detect mild
      warmth.
      OAT yesterday probably around 2 degrees at best, air coming out of vent
      might have been 10-15 at a push with virtually no flow
      
      It's clearly the design of the heat exchange/exhaust muff that is rubbish,
      it has so little contact with the exhaust pipe.
      It looks like two 5 inch long stainless pipes welded at a 15 degree angle.
      The angle has then been cut away to fit over the exhaust.
      
      So.... what to do?  Can anyone recommend where I can get a ready made muff
      that will perform better, or do i need to have one made?
      
      Thanks in Advance,
      Regards,
      -Carl.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Better Cabin Heater | 
      
      
      Carl- 
      
      
      Long shot but may be worth looking at.=C2- If your cabin is well sealed, 
      the positive pressure in the cabin may be preventing adequate flow.=C2- I
       put a vent in my "D" panel that John Lawton recommended.=C2- You may wan
      t to try something similar before rebuilding your heater. 
      
      
      Jim Puglise 
      
      Europa XS, Jab 3300 
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      
      
      From: "Carl Meek" <carlmeek@gmail.com> 
      Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 3:54:56 AM 
      Subject: Jabiru-List: Better Cabin Heater 
      
      Hi, 
      
      Yesterday was freezing inside my Europa XS with Jabiru 3300.=C2- My wife 
      has now refused to fly until I rectify the situation - she wants a 20 degre
      e cabin! 
      
      The current cabin heater layout is: 
      * Opening on the cowl to provide a RAM air into the SCAT hose 
      * Goes through a shallow metal V that's jubilleed to a horizontal running e
      xhaust pipe on the left 
      * Goes into a on/off box with pull cable 
      * Goes through the firewall into a fibreglass box 
      * Splits into 2 
      * Goes to 2 ball valves above pilot and passenger footwell 
      
      I didn't measure the SCAT hose, it's something in the region of 2 or 2.5"
      
      
      With the ball valves open, the airflow is pretty decent, but virtually no d
      etectable heat 
      Closing one valve completely, and the other to 20%, i can JUST detect mild 
      warmth. 
      OAT yesterday probably around 2 degrees at best, air coming out of vent mig
      ht have been 10-15 at a push with virtually no flow 
      
      It's clearly the design of the heat exchange/exhaust muff that is rubbish, 
      it has so little contact with the exhaust pipe. 
      It looks like two 5 inch long stainless pipes welded at a 15 degree angle.
      =C2- The angle has then been cut away to fit over the exhaust. 
      
      So.... what to do?=C2- Can anyone recommend where I can get a ready made 
      muff that will perform better, or do i need to have one made? 
      
      Thanks in Advance, 
      Regards, 
      -Carl. 
      ==
      
 
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