---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/14/04: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:17 AM - Re: Storing a 3300: How long? (boyds@infogen.net.nz) 2. 07:05 AM - Re: Storing a 3300: How long? (Pete Krotje) 3. 07:35 AM - Re: Storing a 3300: How long? (Chris Boultinghouse) 4. 06:14 PM - Re: Storing a 3300: How long? (boyds@infogen.net.nz) 5. 09:49 PM - Alternator hum on Jabiru 2200 (James Sagerser) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:38 AM PST US From: "boyds@infogen.net.nz" Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? Received-SPF: none (dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz: 203.99.18.231 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of infogen.net.nz) receiver=dbmail-mx3.orcon.net.nz; client-ip=203.99.18.231; helo=your-wxrsc38umf; envelope-from=boyds@infogen.net.nz; x-software=spfmilter 0.93 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/; on dbmail-mx3 --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "boyds@infogen.net.nz" Hi Chris, the best thing you can do is to manually turn it over occasionally, but not to run it as it has been set up for storage from the factory. I had mine installed soon after purchase but we did not run it for 2 and a half years It is fine! Regards, Don Boyd -------Original Message------- From: Chris Boultinghouse Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Chris Boultinghouse" Hi Philip, It is still "as delivered" from Suncoast Jabiru, with the exception of installing a 2" prop hub extension and mounting it to the airplane. Looks like I should be good for another few months! -Chris do not archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Philip > J Witham > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:56 PM > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com >mailto:jabiruengine-list@matronics.com;">jabiruengine-list@matronics.com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? 0.00 > FORGED_MUA_EUDORA Forged mail pretending to be from Eudora > > > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Philip J Witham > > > Did you ever run it? If not, I believe it was prepped for storage. _- _- _- -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _- (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _- _- November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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Cylinder barrels are coated with a light film of inhibiting oil. Moving the pistons in the barrel can disturb the film coating and allow corrosion to start. If any builder has turned the engine over and has some time yet before startup I would advise to read the manual and follow the flying (short term) storage instructions. The only cases I have seen where rust appeared in new engines was in two cases where the owner couldn't resist turning it over long before it was ready to start. Keep in mind that even changing prop hubs can move those pistons quite a bit so take care to hold the crank fixed. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of boyds@infogen.net.nz Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "boyds@infogen.net.nz" Hi Chris, the best thing you can do is to manually turn it over occasionally, but not to run it as it has been set up for storage from the factory. I had mine installed soon after purchase but we did not run it for 2 and a half years It is fine! Regards, Don Boyd -------Original Message------- From: Chris Boultinghouse Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Chris Boultinghouse" Hi Philip, It is still "as delivered" from Suncoast Jabiru, with the exception of installing a 2" prop hub extension and mounting it to the airplane. Looks like I should be good for another few months! -Chris do not archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Philip > J Witham > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:56 PM > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com >mailto:jabiruengine-list@matronics.com;">jabiruengine-list@matronics.com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? 0.00 > FORGED_MUA_EUDORA Forged mail pretending to be from Eudora > > > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Philip J Witham > > > Did you ever run it? If not, I believe it was prepped for storage. _- _- _- -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _- (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _- _- November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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I didn't turn the engine more than a few degrees when I changed the prop hub. So even if I did disturb the oil film I think I should be OK, especially since I just changed the hub last month and I should be ready for first start in a couple of more months. (Thanks for posting those hub installation instructions, by the way!) I think this message should stay in the archives, so I'm leaving your reply and clipping out the phrase that would keep it from being archived. I love this new list! : ) Regards, Chris Boultinghouse Austin, TX Sonex N260SX (reserved) http://sonex260.wheelsup.org > -----Original Message----- > Don, > > Turning the engine over is the wrong approach to storage. > Cylinder barrels > are coated with a light film of inhibiting oil. Moving the pistons in the > barrel can disturb the film coating and allow corrosion to start. > > If any builder has turned the engine over and has some time yet before > startup I would advise to read the manual and follow the flying > (short term) > storage instructions. > > The only cases I have seen where rust appeared in new engines was in two > cases where the owner couldn't resist turning it over long before it was > ready to start. Keep in mind that even changing prop hubs can move those > pistons quite a bit so take care to hold the crank fixed. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > Hi Chris, > the best thing you can do is to manually turn it over > occasionally, but not > to run it as it has been set up for storage from the factory. I had mine > installed soon after purchase but we did not run it for 2 and a > half years > It is fine! > Regards, > Don Boyd _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The JabiruEngine-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. 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Received-SPF: none (dbmail-mx2.orcon.net.nz: 203.99.18.227 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of infogen.net.nz) receiver=dbmail-mx2.orcon.net.nz; client-ip=203.99.18.227; helo=your-wxrsc38umf; envelope-from=boyds@infogen.net.nz; x-software=spfmilter 0.93 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/; on dbmail-mx2 --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "boyds@infogen.net.nz" Hi Pete, I omitted to mention that I used additional fogging oil /spray in all cylinders. Regards, Don -------Original Message------- From: Pete Krotje Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Pete Krotje" Don, Turning the engine over is the wrong approach to storage. Cylinder barrels are coated with a light film of inhibiting oil. Moving the pistons in the barrel can disturb the film coating and allow corrosion to start. If any builder has turned the engine over and has some time yet before startup I would advise to read the manual and follow the flying (short term) storage instructions. The only cases I have seen where rust appeared in new engines was in two cases where the owner couldn't resist turning it over long before it was ready to start. Keep in mind that even changing prop hubs can move those pistons quite a bit so take care to hold the crank fixed. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of boyds@infogen.net.nz Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "boyds@infogen.net.nz" Hi Chris, the best thing you can do is to manually turn it over occasionally, but not to run it as it has been set up for storage from the factory. I had mine installed soon after purchase but we did not run it for 2 and a half years It is fine! Regards, Don Boyd -------Original Message------- From: Chris Boultinghouse Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Chris Boultinghouse" Hi Philip, It is still "as delivered" from Suncoast Jabiru, with the exception of installing a 2" prop hub extension and mounting it to the airplane. Looks like I should be good for another few months! -Chris do not archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Philip > J Witham > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:56 PM > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com >mailto:jabiruengine-list@matronics.com;">jabiruengine-list@matronics.com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com mailto:jabiruengine-list@matronics.com;"jabiruengine-list@matronics com; jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Storing a 3300: How long? 0.00 > FORGED_MUA_EUDORA Forged mail pretending to be from Eudora > > > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Philip J Witham > > > Did you ever run it? If not, I believe it was prepped for storage. _- _- _- -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _- (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _- _- November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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