JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive

Sun 03/12/06


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 11:40 AM - engine monitor problem (Jon)
     2. 12:03 PM - Re: engine monitor problem (Andy Silvester)
     3. 08:39 PM - Re: engine monitor problem (Jon)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:40:41 AM PST US
    From: "Jon" <jonh@flinthills.com>
    Subject: engine monitor problem
    --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jon" <jonh@flinthills.com> Hello group, I am working on a Zenith 601 XL with a Jabiru 3300 engine. We have installed an Electronics International MVP-50 engine monitor system. Unfortunately, the system is not functioning properly. Here are some symptoms: 1. When the engine is not running, everything seems to work properly. 2. When the engine is running, we see the following: A. RPM value on display looks good B. All values on the display associated with temperature (EGT, CHT, carb temp, oil temp) read very high and fluctuate fairly frequently C. All other values (volts, amps, oil press, fuel press, fuel flow, fuel level) seem to read accurately most of the time except they fluctuate regularly D. Error code "EDC" sometimes appears on various readouts (which EI says means the sensor hook-up box is sending nonsense to the display box) 3. The comm. radio seems to work fine with the engine running, and there is no appreciable noise. 4. Engine runs great and shows no magneto/firing problems. I have talked to EI, Jabiru, local electronics experts, and Bob. I ran the sensor wires as far from the "loud" wires as I could in front of the firewall. We tried running engine with one alternator wire (of two) completely disconnected. This had no effect. We installed a torroidal filter in the regulator output wire; this had no effect. EI rebuilt the EDC-33P sensor hook-up box, and this had no effect. We are contemplating having them rebuild the display box. EI wants me to find an electromagnetic radiation intensity meter and take readings. Can anyone shed some light on this problem?


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    Time: 12:03:15 PM PST US
    From: "Andy Silvester" <andy@suncoastjabiru.com>
    Subject: engine monitor problem
    --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Andy Silvester" <andy@suncoastjabiru.com> Jon, I know it's not very helpful to have someone reply with "I have no idea" but at least you know the message was read! We use other engine monitors like the Grand Rapids technologies EIS, Dynon, Stratomaster, etc., and they all work fine if configured properly. This means that I don't believe there is anything out-of-spec. with the engine producing RF interference. I'm thinking it's the EI main unit not having as good a noise rejection capability as other monitors. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Andy Suncoast Sportplanes, Inc. www.suncoastjabiru.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: engine monitor problem --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jon" <jonh@flinthills.com> Hello group, I am working on a Zenith 601 XL with a Jabiru 3300 engine. We have installed an Electronics International MVP-50 engine monitor system. Unfortunately, the system is not functioning properly. Here are some symptoms: 1. When the engine is not running, everything seems to work properly. 2. When the engine is running, we see the following: A. RPM value on display looks good B. All values on the display associated with temperature (EGT, CHT, carb temp, oil temp) read very high and fluctuate fairly frequently C. All other values (volts, amps, oil press, fuel press, fuel flow, fuel level) seem to read accurately most of the time except they fluctuate regularly D. Error code "EDC" sometimes appears on various readouts (which EI says means the sensor hook-up box is sending nonsense to the display box) 3. The comm. radio seems to work fine with the engine running, and there is no appreciable noise. 4. Engine runs great and shows no magneto/firing problems. I have talked to EI, Jabiru, local electronics experts, and Bob. I ran the sensor wires as far from the "loud" wires as I could in front of the firewall. We tried running engine with one alternator wire (of two) completely disconnected. This had no effect. We installed a torroidal filter in the regulator output wire; this had no effect. EI rebuilt the EDC-33P sensor hook-up box, and this had no effect. We are contemplating having them rebuild the display box. EI wants me to find an electromagnetic radiation intensity meter and take readings. Can anyone shed some light on this problem?


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    Time: 08:39:40 PM PST US
    From: "Jon" <jonh@flinthills.com>
    Subject: Re: engine monitor problem
    --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jon" <jonh@flinthills.com> Andy, Thanks for your interest. Maybe this is just one of those unpleasant learning experiences where we have to give up and try a different product. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Silvester" <andy@suncoastjabiru.com> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: engine monitor problem > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Andy Silvester" > <andy@suncoastjabiru.com> > > Jon, > > I know it's not very helpful to have someone reply with "I have no idea" > but > at least you know the message was read! > > We use other engine monitors like the Grand Rapids technologies EIS, > Dynon, > Stratomaster, etc., and they all work fine if configured properly. This > means that I don't believe there is anything out-of-spec. with the engine > producing RF interference. I'm thinking it's the EI main unit not having > as > good a noise rejection capability as other monitors. > > Sorry I can't be more helpful. > > Andy > > Suncoast Sportplanes, Inc. > www.suncoastjabiru.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon > Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:39 PM > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: engine monitor problem > > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jon" <jonh@flinthills.com> > > Hello group, > > I am working on a Zenith 601 XL with a Jabiru 3300 engine. We have > installed an Electronics International MVP-50 engine monitor system. > Unfortunately, the system is not functioning properly. Here are some > symptoms: > > 1. When the engine is not running, everything seems to work properly. > > 2. When the engine is running, we see the following: > A. RPM value on display looks good > B. All values on the display associated with temperature (EGT, CHT, > carb > temp, oil temp) read very high and fluctuate fairly frequently > C. All other values (volts, amps, oil press, fuel press, fuel flow, > fuel > level) seem to read accurately most of the time except they fluctuate > regularly > D. Error code "EDC" sometimes appears on various readouts (which EI > says > means the sensor hook-up box is sending nonsense to the display box) > > 3. The comm. radio seems to work fine with the engine running, and there > is > no appreciable noise. > > 4. Engine runs great and shows no magneto/firing problems. > > I have talked to EI, Jabiru, local electronics experts, and Bob. I ran > the > sensor wires as far from the "loud" wires as I could in front of the > firewall. We tried running engine with one alternator wire (of two) > completely disconnected. This had no effect. We installed a torroidal > filter in the regulator output wire; this had no effect. EI rebuilt the > EDC-33P sensor hook-up box, and this had no effect. We are contemplating > having them rebuild the display box. EI wants me to find an > electromagnetic > radiation intensity meter and take readings. > > Can anyone shed some light on this problem? > > >




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