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1. 11:24 AM - Ram Air Duct Installation (TucsonCol)
2. 01:19 PM - Re: Ram Air Duct Installation (Jeff Small)
3. 02:11 PM - Re: Ram Air Duct Installation (Pete Krotje)
4. 02:41 PM - Re: Ram Air Duct Installation (Gilles Thesee)
5. 03:28 PM - Re: Ram Air Duct Installation (Jon)
6. 03:36 PM - Re: Ram Air Duct Installation (bnoon12@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Ram Air Duct Installation |
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "TucsonCol" <bnoon12@comcast.net>
I have been looking and and talking to several people about installing the Ram
air ducts and it seem simple enough until I get ready to actually put them on.
Here are the steps that I am having problems with.
1. There are 4 angle brackets that apparently rest on top of the cylinders without
anything between them and the cylinder fins. (Is that correct?)
There are two little holes in the brackets, how are the wires connected to it and
held down.
2. The pictures/illustrations in the instructions show a wire going around the
cylinder head but not through the brackets, and does it matter where the wire
goes around the cylinder?
3. The pictures/illustrations also show the wire twisted and the spring somehow
connected to the wire wrapped around the cylinder. Where is it connected and
should there be play in the wire?
4. The spring that holds down the ram duct connects to the ram duct somewhere,
but I have no idea if there should be one point of attachment.
Does anyone have a good set of instructions or some pictures that show how it all
goes together. It probably is obvious once seen, but I would like to see how
someone else has it done. Anyone?
thanks in advance
--------
Tucson, AZ
Thorp T-211
Connect it how?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21778#21778
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| Subject: | Re: Ram Air Duct Installation |
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
I have been looking and and talking to several people about installing the Ram
air ducts and it seem simple enough until I get ready to actually put them on.
Here are the steps that I am having problems with.
1. There are 4 angle brackets that apparently rest on top of the cylinders without
anything between them and the cylinder fins. (Is that correct?)
+++ Yes.
There are two little holes in the brackets, how are the wires connected to it
and held down.
+++ Thread safety wire through one hole, down under cylinder to other "butterfly"
angle, then back under, up through, twist.
2. The pictures/illustrations in the instructions show a wire going around the
cylinder head but not through the brackets, and does it matter where the wire
goes around the cylinder?
+++ Nope.
3. The pictures/illustrations also show the wire twisted and the spring somehow
connected to the wire wrapped around the cylinder. Where is it connected
and should there be play in the wire?
+++ No play, you can forget the spring, didn't use it here.
4. The spring that holds down the ram duct connects to the ram duct somewhere,
but I have no idea if there should be one point of attachment.
+++ Attach a piece of safety wire in a large loose loop around center cylinder
and use as per one of these photos.
cheers jeff - these photos from my CH601 but the installation can't be that different.
Does anyone have a good set of instructions or some pictures that show how it
all goes together. It probably is obvious once seen, but I would like to see
how someone else has it done. Anyone?
thanks in advance
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| Subject: | Ram Air Duct Installation |
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Pete Krotje" <pkrotje@athenet.net>
Take a look at the Zenith FWF instructions found at www.usjabiru.com. Just
get past the first page and on the second page click on Zenith FWF Kit.
Open the "Fit Ram Air Cooling Ducts instructions. You may also find the
"Connect Engine" instructions helpful. Another source for hints is the
"Tech Tips" section of www.usjabiru.com
Pete
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:23 PM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Ram Air Duct Installation
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "TucsonCol" <bnoon12@comcast.net>
I have been looking and and talking to several people about installing the
Ram air ducts and it seem simple enough until I get ready to actually put
them on. Here are the steps that I am having problems with.
1. There are 4 angle brackets that apparently rest on top of the cylinders
without anything between them and the cylinder fins. (Is that correct?)
There are two little holes in the brackets, how are the wires connected to
it and held down.
2. The pictures/illustrations in the instructions show a wire going around
the cylinder head but not through the brackets, and does it matter where the
wire goes around the cylinder?
3. The pictures/illustrations also show the wire twisted and the spring
somehow connected to the wire wrapped around the cylinder. Where is it
connected and should there be play in the wire?
4. The spring that holds down the ram duct connects to the ram duct
somewhere, but I have no idea if there should be one point of attachment.
Does anyone have a good set of instructions or some pictures that show how
it all goes together. It probably is obvious once seen, but I would like to
see how someone else has it done. Anyone?
thanks in advance
--------
Tucson, AZ
Thorp T-211
Connect it how?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=21778#21778
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| Subject: | Re: Ram Air Duct Installation |
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Pete Krotje a crit :
>--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Pete Krotje" <pkrotje@athenet.net>
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>Take a look at the Zenith FWF instructions found at www.usjabiru.com. Just
>get past the first page and on the second page click on Zenith FWF Kit.
>Open the "Fit Ram Air Cooling Ducts instructions. You may also find the
>"Connect Engine" instructions helpful. Another source for hints is the
>"Tech Tips" section of www.usjabiru.com
>
>
>
Pete,
Maybe the URL is wrong, or US Jabiru made something wrong, but there is
only one page on the website, and it is some beginner's tuto for setting
up one's website in a few easy steps...
They say it's their future website....
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Ram Air Duct Installation |
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jon" <jonh@flinthills.com>
I would like to add some comments on the ram air duct installation I
recently did on a 3300 in a Zenith 601XL
1. There was an interference with the left duct and the left front engine
mount rubber donut. I cut a hole in the duct adjacent to the donut and then
made a dimpled patch on the inside of the duct. Pete says it is possible to
carefully heat the fiberglass with a heat gun and push the material in to
form a dimple to provide clearance for the donut.
2. I had to trim my ducts a fair amount around the cylinders inboard and
around the valve covers outboard in order for the spark plug boot holes to
line up properly with the spark plugs. Don't drill the screw holes in the
ducts until you are really sure they fit right or you will regret it.
3. I found that in some places on the outboard edges of the ducts they
don't fit tight against the valve covers, and can't really be made to
without a lot of rework. I just put some washers on the inside of the ducts
adjacent to the screw holes so that when the screws are tightened the ducts
don't crack.
Hope this helps
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Ram Air Duct Installation
> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
>
>
> I have been looking and and talking to several people about installing
> the Ram air ducts and it seem simple enough until I get ready to actually
> put them on. Here are the steps that I am having problems with.
> 1. There are 4 angle brackets that apparently rest on top of the
> cylinders without anything between them and the cylinder fins. (Is that
> correct?)
>
> +++ Yes.
>
> There are two little holes in the brackets, how are the wires connected
> to it and held down.
>
> +++ Thread safety wire through one hole, down under cylinder to other
> "butterfly" angle, then back under, up through, twist.
>
> 2. The pictures/illustrations in the instructions show a wire going
> around the cylinder head but not through the brackets, and does it matter
> where the wire goes around the cylinder?
>
> +++ Nope.
>
>
> 3. The pictures/illustrations also show the wire twisted and the spring
> somehow connected to the wire wrapped around the cylinder. Where is it
> connected and should there be play in the wire?
>
> +++ No play, you can forget the spring, didn't use it here.
>
> 4. The spring that holds down the ram duct connects to the ram duct
> somewhere, but I have no idea if there should be one point of attachment.
>
> +++ Attach a piece of safety wire in a large loose loop around center
> cylinder and use as per one of these photos.
>
> cheers jeff - these photos from my CH601 but the installation can't be
> that different.
>
> Does anyone have a good set of instructions or some pictures that show
> how it all goes together. It probably is obvious once seen, but I would
> like to see how someone else has it done. Anyone?
> thanks in advance
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ram Air Duct Installation |
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: bnoon12@comcast.net
Hi Jeff,
I appreciate your response to my post, but you mentioned pictures, and I don't
see any pictures, or don't know how to get to them. Did you intend to put them
on the post, or is there some reference I am missing.
thanks in advance,
bruce noon
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Tucson,AZ 85750
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jeff Small"
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> I have been looking and and talking to several people about installing the Ram
> air ducts and it seem simple enough until I get ready to actually put them on.
> Here are the steps that I am having problems with.
> 1. There are 4 angle brackets that apparently rest on top of the cylinders
> without anything between them and the cylinder fins. (Is that correct?)
>
> +++ Yes.
>
> There are two little holes in the brackets, how are the wires connected to it
> and held down.
>
> +++ Thread safety wire through one hole, down under cylinder to other
> "butterfly" angle, then back under, up through, twist.
>
> 2. The pictures/illustrations in the instructions show a wire going around
> the cylinder head but not through the brackets, and does it matter where the
> wire goes around the cylinder?
>
> +++ Nope.
>
>
> 3. The pictures/illustrations also show the wire twisted and the spring
> somehow connected to the wire wrapped around the cylinder. Where is it
> connected and should there be play in the wire?
>
> +++ No play, you can forget the spring, didn't use it here.
>
> 4. The spring that holds down the ram duct connects to the ram duct
> somewhere, but I have no idea if there should be one point of attachment.
>
> +++ Attach a piece of safety wire in a large loose loop around center cylinder
> and use as per one of these photos.
>
> cheers jeff - these photos from my CH601 but the installation can't be that
> different.
>
> Does anyone have a good set of instructions or some pictures that show how it
> all goes together. It probably is obvious once seen, but I would like to see
> how someone else has it done. Anyone?
> thanks in advance
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Hi Jeff,
I appreciate your response to my post, but you mentioned pictures, and I don't
see any pictures, or don't know how to get to them. Did you intend to put them
on the post, or is there some reference I am missing.
thanks in advance,
bruce noon
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Tucson,AZ 85750
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jeff Small" zodiacjeff@msn.com
-- JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "Jeff Small" <ZODIACJEFF@MSN.COM>
I have been looking and and talking to several people about installing the Ram
air ducts and it seem simple enough until I get ready to actually put them on.
Here are the steps that I am having problems with.
1. There are 4 angle brackets that apparently rest on top of the cylinders
without anything between them and the cylinder fins. (Is that correct?)
There are two little holes in the brackets, how are the wires connected to it
and held down.
"butterfly" angle, then back under
, up through, twist.
2. The pictures/illustrations in the instructions show a wire going around
the cylinder head but not through the brackets, and does it matter where the
wire goes around the cylinder?
3. The pictures/illustrations also show the wire twisted and the spring
somehow connected to the wire wrapped around the cylinder. Where is it
connected and should there be play in the wire?
4. The spring that holds down the ram duct connects to the ram duct
somewhere, but I have no idea if there should be one point of attachment.
and use as per one of these photos.
cheers jeff - these photos from my CH601 but the installation can't be that <B
R> different.
Does anyone have a good set of instructions or some pictures that show how it
all goes together. It probably is obvious once seen, but I would like to see
how someone else has it done. Anyone?
thanks in advance
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