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JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive
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Total Messages Posted Sun 02/25/07: 4
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:05 AM - Sensenich mated to a 3300 (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
2. 08:58 AM - Re: Sensenich mated to a 3300 (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 12:52 PM - Re: Sensenich mated to a 3300 (Miguel Maia de Loureiro)
4. 01:29 PM - Re: Sensenich mated to a 3300 (Gilles Thesee)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 06:05:52 AM PST US
From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich mated to a 3300
Hello Michael,
I have a Europa XS with a 3300 installed swinging a Sensenich hollow carbon,
ground adjustable prop and it has been flawless fo over 89 hours now. Very
well made prop and hub, very light and very smooth. Performance is excellent.
My numbers are on the high side of what Europa quotes for a 912S/Warp Drive
combo. Airmaster is supposed to release an electrically adjustable hub for
this blade set later this year, probably at Oshkosh.
I have no experience with the Prince P-tip props, though.
Hope it helps!
Regards,
John Lawton-
Dunlap, TN (TN89)
N245E
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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 08:58:39 AM PST US
From: Paul Mulwitz
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich mated to a 3300
Hi John,
I would be shocked if your Jabiru didn't outperform a Rotax 912S on
nearly any airplane. For one thing it has 20 or 30 percent more horse power.
I have heard rumors that the Sensenich wood props actually outperform
the composite ones. It would be interesting to hear from someone who
actually tried both on the same airplane and could actually compare
the results.
Happy Landings.
Paul
Zodiac XL, fuselage - J3300 on order
do not archive
At 06:04 AM 2/25/2007, you wrote:
>Hello Michael,
>
>I have a Europa XS with a 3300 installed swinging a Sensenich hollow
>carbon, ground adjustable prop and it has been flawless fo over 89
>hours now. Very well made prop and hub, very light and very smooth.
>Performance is excellent. My numbers are on the high side of what
>Europa quotes for a 912S/Warp Drive combo. Airmaster is supposed to
>release an electrically adjustable hub for this blade set later this
>year, probably at Oshkosh.
>
> I have no experience with the Prince P-tip props, though.
>
>Hope it helps!
>
>Regards,
>
>John Lawton-
>Dunlap, TN (TN89)
>N245E
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 12:52:23 PM PST US
From: "Miguel Maia de Loureiro"
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich mated to a 3300
Hi,
Have you ever tried DUC props? Do you believe in more than 65% real
eficiency? I'm flying a Pioneer 300S with Jab3300 and a DUC prop with 64in.
Got to be careful not to reach VNE at 160 Knots. Takeoff? Less than 300 ft!
Climbs at 1900ft/min at 80Knots (BRC). Cruises at 125 Knots at 70%. 14L/h
Unlead 98 oct.
What you say?
Best regards.
Miguel
On 2/25/07, Paul Mulwitz wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> I would be shocked if your Jabiru didn't outperform a Rotax 912S on nearly
> any airplane. For one thing it has 20 or 30 percent more horse power.
>
> I have heard rumors that the Sensenich wood props actually outperform the
> composite ones. It would be interesting to hear from someone who actually
> tried both on the same airplane and could actually compare the results.
>
> Happy Landings.
>
> Paul
> Zodiac XL, fuselage - J3300 on order
> do not archive
>
> At 06:04 AM 2/25/2007, you wrote:
>
> Hello Michael,
>
> I have a Europa XS with a 3300 installed swinging a Sensenich hollow
> carbon, ground adjustable prop and it has been flawless fo over 89 hours
> now. Very well made prop and hub, very light and very smooth. Performance is
> excellent. My numbers are on the high side of what Europa quotes for a
> 912S/Warp Drive combo. Airmaster is supposed to release an electrically
> adjustable hub for this blade set later this year, probably at Oshkosh.
>
> I have no experience with the Prince P-tip props, though.
>
> Hope it helps!
>
> Regards,
>
> John Lawton-
> Dunlap, TN (TN89)
> N245E
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Paul Mulwitz
> 32013 NE Dial Road
> Camas, WA 98607
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Miguel Maia de Loureiro
Ultralight Pilot Suport Services
Cel.: +351 91 419 21 04
e-Mail: ultralight.flyer@gmail.com
________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 01:29:06 PM PST US
From: Gilles Thesee
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich mated to a 3300
Miguel Maia de Loureiro a crit :
> I'm flying a Pioneer 300S with Jab3300 and a DUC prop with 64in. Got
> to be careful not to reach VNE at 160 Knots. Takeoff? Less than 300
> ft! Climbs at 1900ft/min at 80Knots (BRC). Cruises at 125 Knots at
> 70%. 14L/h Unlead 98 oct.
>
> What you say?
Miguel,
Those numbers are most impressive indeed. 300 ft run, 1900 ft/min. 80 kt
seems a bit high for best rate of climb. Alpi states something closer to
65 kt.
Do you really mean you're close to 160 kt at WOT ? In that case, 70%
cruise should be closer to 140 kt ?
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
http://contrails.free.fr
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