JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive

Tue 10/30/07


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 11:12 AM - Stator coil problem (Randy Stout)
     2. 12:33 PM - Re: Stator coil problem ()
     3. 01:13 PM - Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/29/07 (cy)
     4. 01:53 PM - Re: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/29/07 (Peter Harris)
     5. 03:18 PM - Re: Stator coil problem (n282rs@satx.rr.com)
     6. 05:03 PM - Re: Notification of Jabiru Service Bulletin JSB018-1 (mosquito56)
     7. 05:06 PM - New owners tools question (mosquito56)
     8. 05:45 PM - Re: Re: Notification of Jabiru Service Bulletin JSB018-1 (Keith Pickford)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:12:52 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Stout" <n282rs@satx.rr.com>
    Subject: Stator coil problem
    I flew my plane from San Antonio Texas to Casa Grande AZ to the Copperstate Fly-in. On the way back the engine developed a whirring noise at low RPM. On the ground I found that when the prop was pulled through by hand the stator would jiggle opposite of the prop direction, apparently being pulled toward the approaching magnet. When I removed the stator assembly, 3 of the stator mounting screws fell out. They had broken off. The forth screw broke as I was trying to remove it. I don't see anything loose like a magnet or the flywheel. Has anyone experienced this problem in the past? If so what was needed to keep it from happening again.? At the moment, I'm thinking about getting stainless steel screws to replace the standard screws that broke. I was also going to check the flywheel bolts while I have access to them and anything else I can get my hands on. Randy Stout San Antonio TX www.geocities.com/n282rs n282rs at satx.rr.com


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    Time: 12:33:10 PM PST US
    From: <dredmoody@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Stator coil problem
    Ask the engine manufacturer what screws to use for the stator. Stainless steel may be weaker than the ones called for. Also ask if a Loctite product (and which one) should be used on those screws. Was your wife on board this time? She may begin to think she's snake bit. Dred ---- Randy Stout <n282rs@satx.rr.com> wrote: > > > > I flew my plane from San Antonio Texas to Casa Grande AZ to the Copperstate > Fly-in. On the way back the engine developed a whirring noise at low RPM. On > the ground I found that when the prop was pulled through by hand the stator > would jiggle opposite of the prop direction, apparently being pulled toward > the approaching magnet. When I removed the stator assembly, 3 of the stator > mounting screws fell out. They had broken off. The forth screw broke as I > was trying to remove it. I don't see anything loose like a magnet or the > flywheel. > > Has anyone experienced this problem in the past? If so what was needed to > keep it from happening again.? At the moment, I'm thinking about getting > stainless steel screws to replace the standard screws that broke. I was also > going to check the flywheel bolts while I have access to them and anything > else I can get my hands on. > > Randy Stout > San Antonio TX > www.geocities.com/n282rs > n282rs at satx.rr.com > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:13:19 PM PST US
    From: "cy" <cygan@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/29/07
    Reference Fuel injection on the 3300, would you send me some details -- I guess I missed something. cygan@optusnet.com.au Thanx cy ----- Original Message ----- From: "JabiruEngine-List Digest Server" <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com> To: "JabiruEngine-List Digest List" <jabiruengine-list-digest@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/29/07 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete JabiruEngine-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the JabiruEngine-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-10-29&Archive=JabiruEngine > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-10-29&Archive=JabiruEngine > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 10/29/07: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 10:28 AM - Re: FUEL INJECTION FOR JABIRU 3300 125HP (sonex293) > 2. 01:48 PM - Re: 3300 exhaust system (Peter Harris) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:28:41 AM PST US > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: FUEL INJECTION FOR JABIRU 3300 125HP > From: "sonex293" <sonex293@gmail.com> > > > Peter, > > I remember seeing Helmut's posts on the Yahoo! group and was intrigued. I always > thought this would be something nice to experiment with after I got my plane > in the air. I'm really interested to hear your final results, both performance > and price. > > Please, keep use up to date! > > -- > Michael > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142543#142543 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:48:48 PM PST US > From: "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> > Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 exhaust system > > Buz > > You are getting some great results and I will be interested to hear about > the new prop with 68 pitch. I think I am losing out on RPM as max WOT is > barely 3000 RPM. I will consider getting a Sensenich later but I am waiting > for a few more hours on the clock. With 72 pitch I get up to 1500FPM climb > at 90 KTS and so I think you will not lose much in climb rate with the new > prop. and it should fix the WOT factor about right. Please let me know how > it works out ! > > That must be a slippery air frame. > > Cheers > > Peter > > > _____ > > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > N1BZRich@aol.com > Sent: Monday, 29 October 2007 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 exhaust system > > > Peter, > > I still don't have the right prop. The current one is a 64ZK55 wood > Sensenich and I can still over speed the engine at WOT by quite a bit - even > up at 5000 feet or more. At sea level I really have to bring the throttle > back to keep it at 3300 rpm and with that I am seeing an average of 205 MPH > indicated. At 5000 feet on a standard day I can overspeed the engine with > this prop by something over 150 rpm. True airspeed in MPH at 5000 and the > throttle pulled back to 3300 is something like 185 to 188 mph tas. I have a > 62FK68 on order that should be closer to the right prop. Will likely be at > least another month until that shows up. In the mean time, with the current > prop, I cruise at 8,000 to 10,000 feet on an XC at about 170 mph tas but am > only burning about 5.8 gallons per hour - pretty good economy. Even with > this current prop take off roll is still short (about 600' at gross weight), > and rate of climb is still good (initially about 1200 fpm). > > Blue Skies, > > Buz > > > _____ > > See what's new at > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:53:41 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/29/07
    Cy Everything I know about my fuel injection installation to date is posted and you will be able to find it in the archives. When you have read the archives pls let me know if you have any questions. Regards Peter H -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cy Sent: Tuesday, 30 October 2007 6:13 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/29/07 Reference Fuel injection on the 3300, would you send me some details -- I guess I missed something. cygan@optusnet.com.au Thanx cy ----- Original Message ----- From: "JabiruEngine-List Digest Server" <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com> To: "JabiruEngine-List Digest List" <jabiruengine-list-digest@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 10/29/07 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete JabiruEngine-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the JabiruEngine-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-10-29&Archive=JabiruEngine > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2007-10-29&Archive=JabiruEngine > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 10/29/07: 2 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 10:28 AM - Re: FUEL INJECTION FOR JABIRU 3300 125HP (sonex293) > 2. 01:48 PM - Re: 3300 exhaust system (Peter Harris) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:28:41 AM PST US > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: FUEL INJECTION FOR JABIRU 3300 125HP > From: "sonex293" <sonex293@gmail.com> > > > Peter, > > I remember seeing Helmut's posts on the Yahoo! group and was intrigued. I always > thought this would be something nice to experiment with after I got my plane > in the air. I'm really interested to hear your final results, both performance > and price. > > Please, keep use up to date! > > -- > Michael > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142543#142543 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:48:48 PM PST US > From: "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@bigpond.com> > Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 exhaust system > > Buz > > You are getting some great results and I will be interested to hear about > the new prop with 68 pitch. I think I am losing out on RPM as max WOT is > barely 3000 RPM. I will consider getting a Sensenich later but I am waiting > for a few more hours on the clock. With 72 pitch I get up to 1500FPM climb > at 90 KTS and so I think you will not lose much in climb rate with the new > prop. and it should fix the WOT factor about right. Please let me know how > it works out ! > > That must be a slippery air frame. > > Cheers > > Peter > > > _____ > > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > N1BZRich@aol.com > Sent: Monday, 29 October 2007 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 exhaust system > > > Peter, > > I still don't have the right prop. The current one is a 64ZK55 wood > Sensenich and I can still over speed the engine at WOT by quite a bit - even > up at 5000 feet or more. At sea level I really have to bring the throttle > back to keep it at 3300 rpm and with that I am seeing an average of 205 MPH > indicated. At 5000 feet on a standard day I can overspeed the engine with > this prop by something over 150 rpm. True airspeed in MPH at 5000 and the > throttle pulled back to 3300 is something like 185 to 188 mph tas. I have a > 62FK68 on order that should be closer to the right prop. Will likely be at > least another month until that shows up. In the mean time, with the current > prop, I cruise at 8,000 to 10,000 feet on an XC at about 170 mph tas but am > only burning about 5.8 gallons per hour - pretty good economy. Even with > this current prop take off roll is still short (about 600' at gross weight), > and rate of climb is still good (initially about 1200 fpm). > > Blue Skies, > > Buz > > > _____ > > See what's new at > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:18:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stator coil problem
    From: n282rs@satx.rr.com
    No, she's been too sick to fly with me. Randy -----Original Message----- From: dredmoody@cox.net To:jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Stator coil problem Ask the engine manufacturer what screws to use for the stator. Stainless steel may be weaker than the ones called for. Also ask if a Loctite product (and which one) should be used on those screws. Was your wife on board this time? She may begin to think she's snake bit. Dred ---- Randy Stout <n282rs@satx.rr.com> wrote: > > > > I flew my plane from San Antonio Texas to Casa Grande AZ to the Copperstate > Fly-in. On the way back the engine developed a whirring noise at low RPM. On > the ground I found that when the prop was pulled through by hand the stator > would jiggle opposite of the prop direction, apparently being pulled toward > the approaching magnet. When I removed the stator assembly, 3 of the stator > mounting screws fell out. They had broken off. The forth screw broke as I > was trying to remove it. I don't see anything loose like a magnet or the > flywheel. > > Has anyone experienced this problem in the past? If so what was needed to > keep it from happening again.? At the moment, I'm thinking about getting > stainless steel screws to replace the standard screws that broke. I was also > going to check the flywheel bolts while I have access to them and anything > else I can get my hands on. > > Randy Stout > San Antonio TX > www.geocities.com/n282rs > n282rs at satx.rr.com > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:03:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Notification of Jabiru Service Bulletin JSB018-1
    From: "mosquito56" <mosquito-56@hotmail.com>
    Just sent my deposit for my engine about an hour ago. Ordered the 3300 with all the bells and whistles. Will this service bulletin affect me? Hmmm, not to late to stop payment on the check. LOL j/k. Don -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142845#142845


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    Time: 05:06:16 PM PST US
    Subject: New owners tools question
    From: "mosquito56" <mosquito-56@hotmail.com>
    I just mailed my deposit on my new Jab3300. Are there any tools I should order now? I was watching the how-to video with can-zac and he was pulling apart the carburetor. Do I need the jet removal tool? What else. Your input is greatly appreciated. Don zod601xl N601NV reserved Texas -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142846#142846


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    Time: 05:45:23 PM PST US
    From: "Keith Pickford" <kpickford@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Notification of Jabiru Service Bulletin JSB018-1
    Bells and Whistles were not an option when we got ours ??????? -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mosquito56 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Notification of Jabiru Service Bulletin JSB018-1 <mosquito-56@hotmail.com> Just sent my deposit for my engine about an hour ago. Ordered the 3300 with all the bells and whistles. Will this service bulletin affect me? Hmmm, not to late to stop payment on the check. LOL j/k. Don -------- Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx Apologies if I seem antagonistic. I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance in this thing we call life. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142845#142845




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