---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 12/06/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:03 AM - Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle) 2. 05:45 PM - Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/07 (Peter Warren) 3. 08:32 PM - Jabiru vs. (Keith Snyder) 4. 10:15 PM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Steven Sundquist) 5. 10:35 PM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Craig Payne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:33 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor of love. 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Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2007 List of Contributors current as of 12/6/07! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2007.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:22 PM PST US From: "Peter Warren" Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/07 Please, I wish to be taken off your mailing list. Thanks Peter Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "JabiruEngine-List Digest Server" Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/07 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete JabiruEngine-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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(Matt Dralle) > 1. 04:22 AM - starter (pat ladd) > 2. 08:34 AM - Re: Rough Engine (japhillipsga@aol.com) > 3. 10:03 PM - Re: Rough Engine (Chuck Deiterich) > 4. 10:29 PM - Re: starter (xl) > > > ________________________________ Message 0 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:22:27 AM PST US > From: Matt Dralle > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Just Two Days Left... > > > Dear Listers, > > There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over > all, > participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week > for some > reason. If you've been putting off making your Contribution until the > last > minute, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) > > Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the > Lists > and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your > Contributions > during this Fund Raiser. > > Please make a Contribution today! > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > Thank you! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:22:54 AM PST US > From: "pat ladd" > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: starter > > Hi,# > I have a Jab 2200 on my Kolb Mk 3 extra. For various reasons ir onlt has > about 13 hours in 18 months and I have now found that although there > have been no previous symptoms the starter motor has seized almost > solid. > There is no smell or indication of electrical failure. > > Any comments or similar experiences? > > Pat Ladd > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:34:52 AM PST US > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Rough Engine > From: japhillipsga@aol.com > > Chuck, you have a firing issue. If it was me the first thing I would do is > chage > plugs. They may be failing for one reason of another. I had somewhat of a > similiar > problem with my 3300 but the solution was a divider in the intake . I > would > also check the ends of the plugs, and the distributor cap for tightness. > Lastly, you may have a problem in the carb for too rich. See Jab manual > for help. > Best of luck, Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Deiterich > Sent: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:27 pm > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Rough Engine > > > I have a Jabiru 2200, serial # 988 with 91 hours. > It is on a Zenith 701 with a Prince P-Tip prop 64X26. > > ? > > During the last couple of flights I noticed some vibration starting a > couple of > minutes after takeoff while still climbing at wide open throttle (about > 3000 > rpm).? Throttling back to 2800 rpm the vibration went away.? But climbing > later > in flight at wide open throttle the vibration returned, the vibration was > not > bad but noticeable.? > On my most recent flight, the vibration started again a couple of minutes > into > the flight.? Later in flight to climb the vibration got very bad (rough) > and shook > the whole airplane.? Throttling back it was a smooth as glass.? It seemed > that the vibration would now start before wide open throttle and also carb > heat > seemed to make it worse.? I throttled back to 2800 rpm and headed for home > and landed in about 10 minutes.? Engine was smooth. > > ? > > I periodically check the exhaust pipes for soot.? Usually there would be?a > little?on > my finger, but this past flight it was very black and completely covered > the end of my finger. > > ? > > Any suggestions as to what the problem is and how to fix it? > > > Thanks, > > Chuck D. > > N701TX > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:03:59 PM PST US > From: "Chuck Deiterich" > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Rough Engine > > Thanks for all of the replies, I now have places to look and will let > you know what I find. I do not have any EGT's but will probably get > them. > Chuck D. > N701TX > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:29:21 PM PST US > From: xl > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: starter > > > The rear bearing came out in my starter. > That causes the starter to lock up. > I was far away from home base. I managed to reseat it > and get back home. The starter was replaced under warrantee. > I did try to using locktight (sp) but the bearing fell out again. > > The starter clutch failed later. I had to buy that. > > Joe E > N633Z @ KBFI > 495 hours > Jabiru 3300 > > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, pat ladd wrote: >> Hi,# >> I have a Jab 2200 on my Kolb Mk 3 extra. For various reasons ir onlt >> has about 13 hours in 18 months and I have now found that although there >> have been no previous symptoms the starter motor has seized almost >> solid. >> There is no smell or indication of electrical failure. >> >> Any comments or similar experiences? >> >> Pat Ladd >> > > > -- > 12/1/2007 12:05 p.m. > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:38 PM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs. From: "Keith Snyder" Any other engines. I was looking at comparative numbers (weight, size, horsepower) and the 3300 looks similar in size and weight to the 912 Rotax when adding in radiator and psru and to the O-200 Continental. And obviously has a slight but hopefully real horsepower advantage. Has anyone had the chance to do direct comparison not just from the technical papers put out by the manufacturers? In other words has anyone had a hands-on look at them side by side? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=150939#150939 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:55 PM PST US From: "Steven Sundquist" Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs. I ran across this product on line: http://www.homebuilthelp.com/The912Competition.htm I don't know if it will help sort out your question. -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Snyder Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:32 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs. Any other engines. I was looking at comparative numbers (weight, size, horsepower) and the 3300 looks similar in size and weight to the 912 Rotax when adding in radiator and psru and to the O-200 Continental. And obviously has a slight but hopefully real horsepower advantage. Has anyone had the chance to do direct comparison not just from the technical papers put out by the manufacturers? In other words has anyone had a hands-on look at them side by side? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=150939#150939 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:47 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs. I don't think the Continental weighs the same as a Jabiru 3300. Even if you look at Continental's own specs it weights more. I've weighed my 3300 and it is within a pound of the spec sheet. If you think the Continental weighs the same try comparing empty weights for an AMD 601XL to a kit built 601XL with a 3300. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Snyder Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs. Any other engines. I was looking at comparative numbers (weight, size, horsepower) and the 3300 looks similar in size and weight to the 912 Rotax when adding in radiator and psru and to the O-200 Continental. And obviously has a slight but hopefully real horsepower advantage. Has anyone had the chance to do direct comparison not just from the technical papers put out by the manufacturers? In other words has anyone had a hands-on look at them side by side? 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