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1. 04:27 AM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Keith Snyder)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Don Morrisey)
3. 06:24 AM - Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/07 (sonex293)
4. 10:40 AM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Ron Shannon)
5. 11:20 AM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Robert Hughes)
6. 11:20 AM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Peter Harris)
7. 12:42 PM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Joe Ronco)
8. 02:02 PM - Re: Jabiru vs. (Don Morrisey)
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Per the spec sheets it's 8 pounds difference in favor of the Jabiru.
If they are like the motorcycle manufacturers there could be a fair amount of difference
between what they tell you and reality.
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I think you would find that the O-200 is at least 50 pounds heavier, if not
more.www.donsbushcaddy.comDon Morrisey's Skunkworks
> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs.> From: kmitch51@earthlink.net> Dat
e: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:32:05 -0800> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com> > -
net>> > Any other engines. I was looking at comparative numbers (weight, si
ze, horsepower) and the 3300 looks similar in size and weight to the 912 Ro
tax when adding in radiator and psru and to the O-200 Continental. And obvi
ously has a slight but hopefully real horsepower advantage. > Has anyone ha
d the chance to do direct comparison not just from the technical papers put
out by the manufacturers? In other words has anyone had a hands-on look at
them side by side?> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.
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| Subject: | Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/07 |
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I'm not sure about 50 lbs., but the O-200 is substantially heavier. When
comparing engine weights, make sure you're comparing apples to apples.
Jabiru's published weight (~172 lbs.) includes starter, generator,
exhaust, cooling baffles. The O-200's published weight (see
http://tinyurl.com/3bbeht) is just for the "basic engine".
Ron
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Don Morrisey wrote:
> I think you would find that the O-200 is at least 50 pounds heavier, if
> not more.
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I would agree with that 50 lb difference. I just purchased a new TMX 0-200
and even with the lighter starter and new type alternator, the installed
weight is between 220 and 235 lbs without vacuum pump.
Hawkeye Hughes
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From: "Ron Shannon" <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:38
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs.
> <rshannon@cruzcom.com>
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> I'm not sure about 50 lbs., but the O-200 is substantially heavier. When
> comparing engine weights, make sure you're comparing apples to apples.
> Jabiru's published weight (~172 lbs.) includes starter, generator,
> exhaust, cooling baffles. The O-200's published weight (see
> http://tinyurl.com/3bbeht) is just for the "basic engine".
>
> Ron
> Murphy Rebel 254R
> http://n254mr.com
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> Don Morrisey wrote:
>> I think you would find that the O-200 is at least 50 pounds heavier, if
>> not more.
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The J3300 82Kg is same weight as the Revmaster but 120 HP (rating)
Peter
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
Morrisey
Sent: Friday, 7 December 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs.
I think you would find that the O-200 is at least 50 pounds heavier, if not
more.
www.donsbushcaddy.com <http://www.donsbushcaddy.com/>
Don Morrisey's Skunkworks
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> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs.
> From: kmitch51@earthlink.net
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:32:05 -0800
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
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> Any other engines. I was looking at comparative numbers (weight, size,
horsepower) and the 3300 looks similar in size and weight to the 912 Rotax
when adding in radiator and psru and to the O-200 Continental. And obviously
has a slight but hopefully real horsepower advantage.
> Has anyone had the chance to do direct comparison not just from the
technical papers put out by the manufacturers? In other words has anyone had
a hands-on look at them side by side?
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The Continental literature that I got at Oshkosh 2007 for the new O-200D
(Light Sport version that Cessna is using for the 162) shows an installed
dry weight with accessories of 215 lbs + 6 quarts of oil = approx 225-230
lbs.
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From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Shannon
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs.
I'm not sure about 50 lbs., but the O-200 is substantially heavier. When
comparing engine weights, make sure you're comparing apples to apples.
Jabiru's published weight (~172 lbs.) includes starter, generator,
exhaust, cooling baffles. The O-200's published weight (see
http://tinyurl.com/3bbeht) is just for the "basic engine".
Ron
Murphy Rebel 254R
http://n254mr.com
Don Morrisey wrote:
> I think you would find that the O-200 is at least 50 pounds heavier, if
> not more.
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That is correct. With everything attached to an O-200 (including oil) it w
ill be in the range of 235 pounds. An O 235 will be in the range of 275 po
unds. My original choice for my aircraft was the O 235. A load of researc
h later, I also decided the O 200 was also too heavy and went with the Jabi
ru 3300. The published weights of the O 200 and O 235 are very misleading.
You need to go back to their type certificates to get the real numbers pl
us the add ons. Luckily for me, Mahlon Russell, who is a great resource on
the Lycoming Yahoo list is also the Service Manager at Mattituck. He actu
ally weighed two engines from their test cell for me. www.donsbushcaddy.com
Don Morrisey's Skunkworks
> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:38:45 -0800> From: rshannon@cruzcom.com> To: jab
iruengine-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Jabiru vs.> >
>> > I'm not sure about 50 lbs., but the O-200 is substantially heavier. Wh
en > comparing engine weights, make sure you're comparing apples to apples.
> Jabiru's published weight (~172 lbs.) includes starter, generator, > exh
aust, cooling baffles. The O-200's published weight (see > http://tinyurl.c
om/3bbeht) is just for the "basic engine".> > Ron> Murphy Rebel 254R> http:
//n254mr.com> > Don Morrisey wrote:> > I think you would find that the O-20
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