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1. 10:06 AM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (japhillipsga@aol.com)
2. 12:05 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (Don Morrisey)
3. 12:39 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (Rob Turk)
4. 12:57 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (Rob Turk)
5. 01:15 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (Lynn Matteson)
6. 02:05 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (N1BZRich@aol.com)
7. 02:05 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (THOMAS SMALL)
8. 04:20 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (Lynn Matteson)
9. 08:05 PM - Re: Just Highlander 3300 (Gary Weaver)
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
Gary, you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine overheating. It
probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose everything. I might be able to
help you out with your problem and I was thinking about building an airboat
and it might work on it. I'll help you and buy your 3300 from you if your really
concerned. Can't really pay you much for an engine that's probably a dud. I'll
offer you $2,000. U.S. cash dollars and I'll come pick it up. Just let me
know, Best regards, Bill of Georgia
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Moody II <dredmoody@cox.net>
Sent: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 7:30 am
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
Those V-shaped deflectors are necessary to force the airflow through the cylinder
wall fins rather than letting more of the air simply flow through the gap between
the cylinders. They should be on the incoming side of your airflow route.
If the cooling air comes in from the top, put them on top. If your cooling
air comes in from the bottom, put them on the bottom. If you do the opposite,
the effect of forcing the air through the fins will occur much later in the airstream
with reduced effectiveness.
?
Dred
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Weaver
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 PM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
GEE, after reading all the posts about the 3300 overheating I was wondering if
I made a good decision buying the 3300. I was thinking about pressuring the cowl.
Has anyone done that? Also, the little V plates that are to go on top on the
cylinders. It's seems it makes more sense to put them on the bottom.? Has anyone
tried that? Just a thought.
Gary
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| Subject: | Just Highlander 3300 |
Gary, if you go to the yahoo jabiru engine email list and search for Fisher
Dakota Hawk. There are several builders of that airplane using a standard
lyc/conti cowl pressurization baffle system. One builder/pilot in Austral
ia swears by it after having heating issues with an early 3300.
However, you shouldn't have an issue if you install the engine and ram air
ducts properly.
Don.www.donsbushcaddy.comDon Morrisey's Skunkworks
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
Glad to see I'm not the only one suspecting this to be a troll..
;-)
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Morrisey
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
Gary, if you go to the yahoo jabiru engine email list and search for Fisher
Dakota Hawk. There are several builders of that airplane using a standard
lyc/conti cowl pressurization baffle system. One builder/pilot in Australia
swears by it after having heating issues with an early 3300.
However, you shouldn't have an issue if you install the engine and ram air
ducts properly.
Don.
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
Whoops! Responded to the wrong message, sorry... I meant to say that Bill
sees what I'm seeing as well. This Gary guy is deliberately telling us he
will do things entirely against everything we have learned in the past years
about using a Jabiru engine, and deliberately mentioning options that are
soooo wrong it's not even funny. Gary must be trolling. If not, I'm bidding
$2100...
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: japhillipsga@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
Gary, you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine overheating.
It probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose everything. I might be
able to help you out with your problem and I was thinking about building an
airboat and it might work on it. I'll help you and buy your 3300 from you if
your really concerned. Can't really pay you much for an engine that's
probably a dud. I'll offer you $2,000. U.S. cash dollars and I'll come pick
it up. Just let me know, Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
I'll bid $2150, permit him to deliver it, and for his trouble, I'll
give him a tour of all the depressed areas of Michigan, including all
the shut-down industrial centers of the State. : )
Lynn
On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Rob Turk wrote:
> <matronics@rtist.nl>
>
> Whoops! Responded to the wrong message, sorry... I meant to say
> that Bill sees what I'm seeing as well. This Gary guy is
> deliberately telling us he will do things entirely against
> everything we have learned in the past years about using a Jabiru
> engine, and deliberately mentioning options that are soooo wrong
> it's not even funny. Gary must be trolling. If not, I'm bidding
> $2100...
>
> Rob
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
>
>
> Gary, you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine
> overheating. It probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose
> everything. I might be able to help you out with your problem and I
> was thinking about building an airboat and it might work on it.
> I'll help you and buy your 3300 from you if your really concerned.
> Can't really pay you much for an engine that's probably a dud. I'll
> offer you $2,000. U.S. cash dollars and I'll come pick it up. Just
> let me know, Best regards, Bill of Georgia
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
In a message dated 1/16/2008 1:08:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
japhillipsga@aol.com writes:
Gary, you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine overheating.
It probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose everything. I might be
able to help you out with your problem and I was thinking about building an
airboat and it might work on it. I'll help you and buy your 3300 from you if
your really concerned. Can't really pay you much for an engine that's probably
a
dud. I'll offer you $2,000.
What a bunch of crock. If the Jabiru 3300 is installed correctly using
the supplied parts as specified, then you should be able to get the CHTs into
the correct range. You can do some adjusting on individual CHTs by placing
small deflectors over individual cylinders and by slightly changing the
baffle height in front of #1 and #3 which will change the amount of air that goes
through the fiber-glass air ducts. Remember, you want high pressure on top
of the cylinders and low pressure under them. You can also help the situation
by installing a small air dam to help air exit at the aft end of the lower
cowling. This of course lowers air pressure under the cylinders and increases
the air flow through the cylinders.
I have flown seven different Jabiru powered aircraft (six with the 3300
and one with the 2200) and with these adjustments as mentioned above, all
have been well within the CHT ranges. The slowest was a Rans S7 and with the
3300 it was a real Super Cub beater. Fun airplane. Next slowest was a Zodiac
601XL which my EAA chapter built with me being the lead technical advisor and
once again the air duct adjustments with small deflectors over the cylinders
needing more cooling air did the trick. All the other Jabiru powered
airplanes that I have flown have been the speedier homebuilts like the Esqual
and
Lightning. Again, no problems if you install the engine and air ducts as
specified. If you continue to have problems, call the folks at Jabiru USA in
Tennessee. In my mind, they are the experts. In fact, if you have not been to
their Jabiur engine school, you have short changed yourself in your quest
for knowledge.
Blue Skies,
Buz Rich
Highly modified Esqual with lots of Lightning stuff and a 3300 Jab that
has 416 hours on it in the last 2 years. No problems on it and I run it
hard.
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
When you comedians do this nonsense could you at least add DO NOT ARCHIVE
like civilized folk??? Auditions for Last Comic Standing will be in April.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
>
> I'll bid $2150, permit him to deliver it, and for his trouble, I'll give
> him a tour of all the depressed areas of Michigan, including all the
> shut-down industrial centers of the State. : )
>
> Lynn
> On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Rob Turk wrote:
>
>>
>> Whoops! Responded to the wrong message, sorry... I meant to say that
>> Bill sees what I'm seeing as well. This Gary guy is deliberately telling
>> us he will do things entirely against everything we have learned in the
>> past years about using a Jabiru engine, and deliberately mentioning
>> options that are soooo wrong it's not even funny. Gary must be trolling.
>> If not, I'm bidding $2100...
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com
>> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
>>
>>
>> Gary, you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine
>> overheating. It probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose
>> everything. I might be able to help you out with your problem and I was
>> thinking about building an airboat and it might work on it. I'll help
>> you and buy your 3300 from you if your really concerned. Can't really
>> pay you much for an engine that's probably a dud. I'll offer you $2,000.
>> U.S. cash dollars and I'll come pick it up. Just let me know, Best
>> regards, Bill of Georgia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
Oops, I forgot. My "do not archive" is usually in the sig that I use,
but I didn't use it this time. I get used to not using it on Yahoo,
and missed the fact that this was on Matronics.
But to be perfectly honest, Thomas, this list is so seldom used that
a few that get by w/o DNA certainly won't clog up the system too badly.
However, you are absolutely right, and I for one, apologize.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/460+ hrs
do not archive
On Jan 16, 2008, at 5:00 PM, THOMAS SMALL wrote:
> <tjs22t@verizon.net>
>
> When you comedians do this nonsense could you at least add DO NOT
> ARCHIVE like civilized folk??? Auditions for Last Comic Standing
> will be in April.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
>
>
>> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>
>> I'll bid $2150, permit him to deliver it, and for his trouble,
>> I'll give him a tour of all the depressed areas of Michigan,
>> including all the shut-down industrial centers of the State. : )
>>
>> Lynn
>> On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Rob Turk wrote:
>>
>>> <matronics@rtist.nl>
>>>
>>> Whoops! Responded to the wrong message, sorry... I meant to say
>>> that Bill sees what I'm seeing as well. This Gary guy is
>>> deliberately telling us he will do things entirely against
>>> everything we have learned in the past years about using a
>>> Jabiru engine, and deliberately mentioning options that are
>>> soooo wrong it's not even funny. Gary must be trolling. If not,
>>> I'm bidding $2100...
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: japhillipsga@aol.com
>>> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Just Highlander 3300
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary, you know your probably correct about that Jab 3300 engine
>>> overheating. It probably will overheat and ruin and you'll lose
>>> everything. I might be able to help you out with your problem and
>>> I was thinking about building an airboat and it might work on
>>> it. I'll help you and buy your 3300 from you if your really
>>> concerned. Can't really pay you much for an engine that's
>>> probably a dud. I'll offer you $2,000. U.S. cash dollars and
>>> I'll come pick it up. Just let me know, Best regards, Bill of
>>> Georgia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Just Highlander 3300 |
Well, thanks for all your advice. I've never flown a plane with a Jabiru. I have
only flown supers cubs and 180's.
What a swell bunch of guys!!
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