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1. 09:17 AM - Which EIS? (ianwilson2)
2. 09:33 AM - Re: Which EIS? (steve)
3. 09:41 AM - Re: Which EIS? (Craig Payne)
4. 10:06 AM - Re: Which EIS? (Jabiru USA)
5. 10:48 AM - Re: Which EIS? (Lynn Matteson)
6. 12:04 PM - Re: Which EIS? (D.Hetrick)
7. 12:14 PM - Re: Which EIS? (THOMAS SMALL)
8. 01:25 PM - Engine Oil Change (RONAL SMITH)
9. 05:08 PM - Re: Which EIS? (Lynn Matteson)
10. 05:57 PM - Re: Engine Oil Change (Lynn Matteson)
11. 11:40 PM - Rotor arm pictures (James, Clive R)
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I'm want to install an EIS in the X-Air H that I'm currently building and it will
have a Jab 2200A (#2859) on the front. I've been looking at the Grand Rapids
EIS as it seems to give me all of the information that I need at a reasonable
price, but I've tried emailing them 3 times for more information and I haven't
had a single response from them. If they're like this before I buy, then
there's not much hope once I've passed over the cash!
What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other instruments?
Is there something else that you would recommend I should looking? Budget dictates
that stuff like the Dynon are a no-no!
Thanks in advance.
Ian Wilson
Read this topic online here:
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I ve purchase two EIS units from Jabiru West in Fresno, California.
Excellent service and good prices.
I had one on my 2200A and now on my 3300A.
Call Jim and see what he will do...
Steve Weston
----- Original Message -----
From: "ianwilson2" <ianwilson2@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Which EIS?
> <ianwilson2@hotmail.com>
>
> I'm want to install an EIS in the X-Air H that I'm currently building and
> it will have a Jab 2200A (#2859) on the front. I've been looking at the
> Grand Rapids EIS as it seems to give me all of the information that I need
> at a reasonable price, but I've tried emailing them 3 times for more
> information and I haven't had a single response from them. If they're
> like this before I buy, then there's not much hope once I've passed over
> the cash!
>
> What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other
> instruments? Is there something else that you would recommend I should
> looking? Budget dictates that stuff like the Dynon are a no-no!
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ian Wilson
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163680#163680
>
>
>
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The March issue of Kitplanes magazine had a survey of engine monitors. But
you have to subscribe or pay $7.50 for the single article:
http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/25_3/builder_spotlight/issues_builderspotlig
ht_8133-1.phtml
One new low-cost line comes from I-K Technologies. The combine LED bar
graphs with monochrome LCD displays:
http://www.i-ktechnologies.com/
Also try MGL:
Factory site (South Africa): http://www.mglavionics.co.za/
US Site: http://www.mglavionics.com/
The E2 might suit you:
http://www.mglavionics.com/html/e2.html
The E1 fits in a 3.5 inch standard round cut-out:
http://www.mglavionics.com/e1.pdf
On the other hand MGL's monochrome EFIS is cheap enough that you could go
all glass:
http://www.mglavionics.com/html/ultra_horizon_xl.html
If you have questions ask them on the user-to-user Yahoo group at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stratomaster_users_group/
Rainier (the owner and chief designer) regularly responds to questions
directly on the group.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ianwilson2
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:15 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Which EIS?
<ianwilson2@hotmail.com>
I'm want to install an EIS in the X-Air H that I'm currently building and it
will have a Jab 2200A (#2859) on the front. I've been looking at the Grand
Rapids EIS as it seems to give me all of the information that I need at a
reasonable price, but I've tried emailing them 3 times for more information
and I haven't had a single response from them. If they're like this before
I buy, then there's not much hope once I've passed over the cash!
What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other
instruments? Is there something else that you would recommend I should
looking? Budget dictates that stuff like the Dynon are a no-no!
Thanks in advance.
Ian Wilson
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163680#163680
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I'm surprised that you have not had a response. Normally GRT customer
support is top notch. I would highly recommend the GRT EIS. We've sold
several hundred in the last few years with no problems.
Pete Krotje
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ianwilson2
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Which EIS?
<ianwilson2@hotmail.com>
I'm want to install an EIS in the X-Air H that I'm currently building and it
will have a Jab 2200A (#2859) on the front. I've been looking at the Grand
Rapids EIS as it seems to give me all of the information that I need at a
reasonable price, but I've tried emailing them 3 times for more information
and I haven't had a single response from them. If they're like this before
I buy, then there's not much hope once I've passed over the cash!
What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other
instruments? Is there something else that you would recommend I should
looking? Budget dictates that stuff like the Dynon are a no-no!
Thanks in advance.
Ian Wilson
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163680#163680
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I've got the Grand Rapids EIS with probes on all 4 cylinders for EGT
and CHT's. I've phoned them whenever a learning problem occurred, and
except for one occasion, they were there to answer questions. Try a
phone call.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 12, 2008, at 12:14 PM, ianwilson2 wrote:
> <ianwilson2@hotmail.com>
>
> I'm want to install an EIS in the X-Air H that I'm currently
> building and it will have a Jab 2200A (#2859) on the front. I've
> been looking at the Grand Rapids EIS as it seems to give me all of
> the information that I need at a reasonable price, but I've tried
> emailing them 3 times for more information and I haven't had a
> single response from them. If they're like this before I buy, then
> there's not much hope once I've passed over the cash!
>
> What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other
> instruments? Is there something else that you would recommend I
> should looking? Budget dictates that stuff like the Dynon are a no-
> no!
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ian Wilson
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163680#163680
>
>
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Ian,
Take a look at Rocky Mountain Instrument. They make a great EFIS as well as
an encoder.
Dale
XS Tri-gear with Jab 3300
----- Original Message -----
From: "ianwilson2" <ianwilson2@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:14 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Which EIS?
> <ianwilson2@hotmail.com>
>
> I'm want to install an EIS in the X-Air H that I'm currently building and
> it will have a Jab 2200A (#2859) on the front. I've been looking at the
> Grand Rapids EIS as it seems to give me all of the information that I need
> at a reasonable price, but I've tried emailing them 3 times for more
> information and I haven't had a single response from them. If they're
> like this before I buy, then there's not much hope once I've passed over
> the cash!
>
> What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other
> instruments? Is there something else that you would recommend I should
> looking? Budget dictates that stuff like the Dynon are a no-no!
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Ian Wilson
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163680#163680
>
>
>
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What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other
instruments? Is there something else that you would recommend I should
looking? Budget dictates that stuff like the Dynon are a no-no!
+++ Support is super, don't even consider another manufacturer.
Call (616) 245-7707. You'll probably get Sandy who knows as much as the
guys in the shop.
cheers jeff
do not archive
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| Subject: | Engine Oil Change |
Lynn, I wanted to recalibrate my dipstick, because when I first did it,
the dipstick tube was not in the proper position. When I first added
oil to my engine, I calibrated the dipstick for the 3-point position.
Then when I ran the engine, I had an oil leak at the base of the
dipstick tube. I found out the dipstick tube was not seated all the way
down so that the O-ring was engaging. When I pushed the tube down and
tightened the setscrew on the dipstick tube holder, it would raise the
tube about 1/4 inch. I fixed that problem, but never recalibrated my
dipstick.
My max oil level in the 3-point position is at the bottom mark of the
original dipstick that I assume was calibrated for the engine in the
level position.. Where is your max oil level mark? I could use a
longer dipstick, are there any to be had that will fit.
Ron Smith, KF-4 with Jabiru 2200A engine.
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Yes, Sandy is great, and when it comes time to "disable pages" (so
you don't have to scroll over them if not needed), she'll lead you by
the hand over the phone to get the job done. This is one area of the
EIS instruction manual that could stand some improvement.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
do not archive
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:11 PM, THOMAS SMALL wrote:
> <tjs22t@verizon.net>
>
>
> What are your experiences with Grand Rapids, their EIS and other
> instruments? Is there something else that you would recommend I
> should looking? Budget dictates that stuff like the Dynon are a no-
> no!
>
>
> +++ Support is super, don't even consider another manufacturer.
>
> Call (616) 245-7707. You'll probably get Sandy who knows as much
> as the guys in the shop.
>
> cheers jeff
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Oil Change |
I "borrowed" someone else's idea and using a small pin punch, drove
the dipstick tube down into the knob about a quarter-inch. This makes
the stick penetrate further into the oil in the sump. Or you could
just silver solder a short extension onto the original dipstick.
With this new position of the original marks, I use the center mark
as my oil level.
Basically what you should do is to add the amount of oil that the
instructions recommend, like say after an oil change, then start the
engine, let the oil circulate and fill the filter, lines etc., then
let it sit for several hours. Then make a mark that shows the level
at that point. This is the level of oil that they recommend. I've
found that if I add 2 qts and 14 oz of oil after an oil and filter
change, then start up, shut down and let sit, that is my oil level.
This reflects about what Jabiru says the oil capacity should be.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/470+ hrs
On Feb 12, 2008, at 5:19 PM, RONAL SMITH wrote:
> Lynn, I wanted to recalibrate my dipstick, because when I first
> did it, the dipstick tube was not in the proper position. When I
> first added oil to my engine, I calibrated the dipstick for the 3-
> point position. Then when I ran the engine, I had an oil leak at
> the base of the dipstick tube. I found out the dipstick tube was
> not seated all the way down so that the O-ring was engaging. When
> I pushed the tube down and tightened the setscrew on the dipstick
> tube holder, it would raise the tube about 1/4 inch. I fixed that
> problem, but never recalibrated my dipstick.
>
> My max oil level in the 3-point position is at the bottom mark of
> the original dipstick that I assume was calibrated for the engine
> in the level position.. Where is your max oil level mark? I could
> use a longer dipstick, are there any to be had that will fit.
>
> Ron Smith, KF-4 with Jabiru 2200A engine.
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| Subject: | Rotor arm pictures |
On Yahoo Jabiru engine group and attached are some pictures of the arms
for the 2200 and 3300 as most folk won't have seen both types, The 3300
looks to have a lot more substantial fitting and from what's been posted
here and on Yahoo doesn't have the same issues at the 2200 (clip
failing, falling off, gluing recomendation).
For the 2200 the two plastic 'rivets' can be seen. I tried some cheap
ones once but with only one 'rivet' and the gear whine or whatever
causes the situation with the arms vibrating + falling off soon had the
metal plate loose.
Regards, Clive
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