JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/15/08


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 01:02 PM - CHT's (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net)
     2. 01:18 PM - Re: CHT's (Iberplanes IGL)
     3. 02:05 PM - Re: CHT's (Jabiru USA)
     4. 02:08 PM - Re: CHT's (Ivan)
     5. 02:34 PM - Re: CHT's (Ivan)
     6. 02:48 PM - Re: CHT's (Iberplanes IGL)
     7. 08:51 PM - Re: CHT's (D.Hetrick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:02:25 PM PST US
    From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net
    Subject: CHT's
    Question regarding the last post. Does anyone know the beginning temperature of the Yellow Range of the CHT's on the 3300. my engine is in a 601 XL and i would like to stay out of the Caution area. DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 01:18:10 PM PST US
    From: "Iberplanes IGL" <iberplanes@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: CHT's
    Nice question, I=B4ve read the manual and it only says min and max temperatures. Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300


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    Time: 02:05:48 PM PST US
    From: "Jabiru USA" <info@usjabiru.com>
    Subject: CHT's
    You guys need to read the manuals more carefully. Section 4 of the 3300 Installation Manual says: 4 OPERATING LIMITATIONS 4.1 RPM - Continuous: 3300 RPM / Full Throttle - Recommended Cruise: 2750 RPM ' 3100 RPM 4.2 Engine Cooling Maximum Cylinder Head Temperatures measured under exhaust spark plug. Maximum Peak Temperature 200=BAC (392=B0F) Continuous Operation 180=BAC (356=B0F) That would indicate that the red line would be at 392 degrees F. The green would be below 356 degrees F and the yellow would be the area between 356 and 392. Those numbers are for the new hydraulic lifter engines. Earlier engines had a max of 347 F. Pete Krotje Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Iberplanes IGL Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: CHT's Nice question, I=B4ve read the manual and it only says min and max temperatures. Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300


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    Time: 02:08:52 PM PST US
    From: "Ivan" <imap8ntr@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: CHT's
    I studied the Jabiru Engine Instruction and Maintenance Manual carefully upon receiving my airplane. Jabiru Au has all the manuals on their site. On page 12 of the Jab Engine Instruction manual it says that the max continuous CHT temp is 356 F. This appears to me that this is the top of the "green" values. Max on climbout for 5 min max is 392F or redline. So it seems to me that yellow is from 356-392F. I try never to let my cht's operate continuously above the 340's hottest. The latest revision of the POH for my Jabiru J-250 states that 356-392 F is in the yellow arc. Hope this helps, Ivan ----- Original Message ----- From: Iberplanes IGL To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: CHT's Nice question, I=B4ve read the manual and it only says min and max temperatures. Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300


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    Time: 02:34:31 PM PST US
    From: "Ivan" <imap8ntr@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: CHT's
    Well said Pete. One of the reasons why I decided to purchase the Jabiru J-250 with the Jabiru engine as opposed a Rotax powered aircraft is because I was impressed so much by the Jabiru documentation. Almost all of my questions regarding the engine were answered by both the I/M manual and also the installation manual. Even though I have a factory buile S-LSA I still read the assembly and engine installation manuals because they had a wealth of additional information. I have owned Rotax engines for years (with dissappointment.) I was alsways trying to figure out what fluids I shoud use. I never could find the torque values when I did work on the Rotax which frustrated me to hell. I had a big smile on my face when I saw a page with torque values in the Jabiru Manuals. My aviation motto has always been if it is not in writing, then it is heresay. Good documentation signifies a well thought out design and reproducibility. It also is the basis of future improvements and issued SB's which I also review. Reading is a part of flying, fly safe Ivan Phoenix, AZ, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Jabiru USA To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: CHT's You guys need to read the manuals more carefully. Section 4 of the 3300 Installation Manual says: 4 OPERATING LIMITATIONS 4.1 RPM - Continuous: 3300 RPM / Full Throttle - Recommended Cruise: 2750 RPM - 3100 RPM 4.2 Engine Cooling Maximum Cylinder Head Temperatures measured under exhaust spark plug. Maximum Peak Temperature 200=BAC (392=B0F) Continuous Operation 180=BAC (356=B0F) That would indicate that the red line would be at 392 degrees F. The green would be below 356 degrees F and the yellow would be the area between 356 and 392. Those numbers are for the new hydraulic lifter engines. Earlier engines had a max of 347 F. Pete Krotje Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Iberplanes IGL Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:15 PM To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: CHT's Nice question, I=B4ve read the manual and it only says min and max temperatures. Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300 http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 02:48:05 PM PST US
    From: "Iberplanes IGL" <iberplanes@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: CHT's
    Hello Peter, What can I say? Thank you very much!! 2008/7/15 Jabiru USA <info@usjabiru.com>: > You guys need to read the manuals more carefully. Section 4 of the 3300 > Installation Manual says: > > > 4 OPERATING LIMITATIONS > > *4.1 RPM* > > - Continuous: 3300 RPM / Full Throttle > > - Recommended Cruise: 2750 RPM ' 3100 RPM > > *4.2 Engine Cooling* > > Maximum Cylinder Head Temperatures measured under exhaust spark plug. > > Maximum Peak Temperature 200=BAC (392=B0F) > > Continuous Operation 180=BAC (356=B0F) > > > That would indicate that the red line would be at 392 degrees F. The gre en > would be below 356 degrees F and the yellow would be the area between 356 > and 392. > > > Those numbers are for the new hydraulic lifter engines. Earlier engines > had a max of 347 F. > > > Pete Krotje > > Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Iberplanes > IGL > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:15 PM > *To:* jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: JabiruEngine-List: CHT's > > > Nice question, I=B4ve read the manual and it only says min and max > temperatures. > > > Alberto Martin > www.iberplanes.es > Igualada - Barcelona - Spain > > ---------------------------------------------- > Zodiac 601 XL Builder > Serial: 6-7011 > > Tail Kit: Finished > Wings: Not Started > Fuselage: Ordered > Engine: Jabiru 3300 > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * > =========== /www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEngine-List =========== =========== com/contribution =========== > * > > -- Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300


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    Time: 08:51:15 PM PST US
    From: "D.Hetrick" <gdh@isp.com>
    Subject: Re: CHT's
    Hello Alberto, My wife and I will be arriving in Barcelona Friday the 17th at about 0930. We have reservations for two days at the "Sunotel Central" Gran Via De Les Corts Catalanes 570. How far are you from the city? If convenient, please call me at the hotel after 1300 on Thursday. Thank you, Dale Hetrick Europa Tri-Gear/ Jabiru 3300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Iberplanes IGL To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: CHT's Nice question, I=B4ve read the manual and it only says min and max temperatures. Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300




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