---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/25/08: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:34 AM - Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/22/08 (Ronald Deutch) 2. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/22/08 (Lynn Matteson) 3. 09:02 AM - Re: It runs! (Lynn Matteson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:30 AM PST US From: Ronald Deutch Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/22/08 I've using Baldwin 33 which is a good oil filter and rates more highly than the Fram in testing my Light Plane Maintenance. --- On Tue, 9/23/08, JabiruEngine-List Digest Server wrote: From: JabiruEngine-List Digest Server Subject: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/22/08 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete JabiruEngine-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. 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Without the Ryco filters available from any local auto parts stores, I picked the equivalent Fram filter. At the same time, I was reviewing some past JabaChat newsletters and they warned that some equivalent oil filters were causing oil pressure fluctuation problems. The article did not mention any brand names. I sent an e-mail to Pete at Jabiru USA asking about this but never heard back. Has anybody had any problems with other commonly available auto oil filter brands? I want to know if there are any brands to shy away from. My post-change oil pressure with the Fram is stable, but did note that it is 6-7 PSI higher than it was before the oil change. This is going from Aeroshell 100 mineral grade to Aeroshell W100. I had my oil filter debris analyzed by my lab at work. It was primarily small carbon deposits, some small aluminum pieces, carbon steel fuzz and just a few bits of very small brass-like material. Overall, it was probably just what is expected. Flying is going very well so far and I am up to 30 hours on my 601XL/3300 combination. I also recently installed a flow divider in front of the carb inlet and got a marvelous climb-out power boost. I will present more data on this later after I complete a few more test flights on the cruise effects of this mod. Let's go flying! -------- David Gallagher 601 XL, first flight 7/24/08. In Phase I flight test. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5523#205523 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:00 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: 3300 First Oil Change (oil filter question) Dave, try this: http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index.html Rick On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:09 PM, DaveG601XL wrote: > david.m.gallagher@ge.com> > > I recently completed my first oil change at 25 hours. Without the Ryco > filters available from any local auto parts stores, I picked the equivalent > Fram filter. At the same time, I was reviewing some past JabaChat > newsletters and they warned that some equivalent oil filters were causing > oil pressure fluctuation problems. The article did not mention any brand > names. I sent an e-mail to Pete at Jabiru USA asking about this but never > heard back. > > Has anybody had any problems with other commonly available auto oil filter > brands? I want to know if there are any brands to shy away from. > > My post-change oil pressure with the Fram is stable, but did note that it > is 6-7 PSI higher than it was before the oil change. This is going from > Aeroshell 100 mineral grade to Aeroshell W100. > > I had my oil filter debris analyzed by my lab at work. It was primarily > small carbon deposits, some small aluminum pieces, carbon steel fuzz and > just a few bits of very small brass-like material. Overall, it was probably > just what is expected. > > Flying is going very well so far and I am up to 30 hours on my 601XL/3300 > combination. I also recently installed a flow divider in front of the carb > inlet and got a marvelous climb-out power boost. I will present more data > on this later after I complete a few more test flights on the cruise effects > of this mod. > > Let's go flying! > > -------- > David Gallagher > 601 XL, first flight 7/24/08. > In Phase I flight test. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5523#205523 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:31 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: JabiruEngine-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 09/22/08 Same here....Baldwin B33, as suggested by Andy Sylvester about a year ago. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; 3 test flights today...more to come after some work is done. On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Ronald Deutch wrote: > I've using Baldwin 33 which is a good oil filter and rates more > highly than the Fram in testing my Light Plane Maintenance. > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:20 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: It runs! The way I understand it, the jumper retard wire is there to provide 30 retard for that controller, because the sensor associated with that controller is mechanically advanced 30. Too late for retaining the one Jabiru mag, as I've removed the associated gears and shafts, and covered the holes. Not too late **forever**, it would just involve removing the rear gear case cover and reinstalling one gear and shaft, cap and rotor, but then I'd have to eat crow, and that stuff doesn't taste too good...I've done that before. : ) But certainly I'd do that before I'd be stubborn enough to insist on NOT doing it. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; 3 test flights today...more to come after some work is done. On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Peter Harris wrote: > > > Lynn, > When the battery is down a little my flywheel triggered unit tends > to kick > back as the electronic ignition will fire at hand prop speed. Your > jumper > retard wire would be a definite advantage for starting and also for > slow > idle. > I would retain one magneto and fit one electroair. > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Lynn > Matteson > Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 9:36 AM > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: It runs! > > > > Apparently they have automatic timing from zero degrees BTC, to 7 > BTC, to the factory (Electroair factory) set 25 degrees BTC. And one > of my units is mechanically set to 30 BTC, then delayed 30 by a > jumper wire, so that in effect both units fire at the same time. This > is necessary because of the proximity of the two magnetic sensors, > which are 30 apart. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster > Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; ready > to fly > Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined to > try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") > > > On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Peter Harris wrote: > >> >> >> Lynn >> I have used the flywheel magnets to trigger a simple electronic >> ignition >> module which earths the Bosch coil but spark is distributed by the >> rotors. >> It is working well and throws a fat spark on 1mm plug gap but there >> is no >> feature to adjust timing. >> Do you have adjustable timing with electroair? >> Peter >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> Lynn >> Matteson >> Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 6:40 AM >> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: It runs! >> >> >> >> Jeff is still involved, at least as far as my installation is >> concerned. It sounds like he built the trigger wheel for mine, and >> Michael said he would "become involved" with my project. >> >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster >> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; ready >> to fly >> Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but determined to >> try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") >> >> >> >> On Sep 24, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Rob wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Lynn, I've been running the Electroair on my KIS with the Lyc O320 >>> engine >>> for several years now. I still have one original mag on one side >>> and the >>> electronic on the other. The Electronic will show up to 40 deg >>> when I am >>> at high altitudes and running with the throttle pulled back. Mine >>> is the >>> Jeff Rose version and I haven't seen the newer ones since Jeff sold >>> the >>> company. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> Lynn Matteson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> After 7 weeks on the "disabled list" I fired up my rebuilt Jabiru >>>> 2200 this evening...and it sounded great. I cranked it for a few >>>> seconds with ignition off, just to be sure that it would NOT start. >>>> Then I switched the "mags" on and fired her up...what a sweet sound >>>> after so long silent. The new ignition system worked flawlessly, >>>> and >>>> a mag check showed the normal very little drop between the two >>>> systems. This is the Electroair ignition system that I'm speaking >>>> of, >>>> and uses two magnetic sensors aimed at the crankshaft trigger >>>> wheel. >>>> So far I'm thrilled with the new system, and with (patting >>>> myself on >>>> the back) the way the engine now runs. I'm not saying that it's any >>>> better than the stock Jabiru ignition system, but a few hours from >>>> now when I would normally have to check my rotors...what rotors? >>>> That's a small issue to be sure, but hopefully I'll have piece of >>>> mind with the new rebuild and the new ignition system. >>>> >>>> Test flight comes tomorrow morning. >>>> >>>> Lynn Matteson >>>> Kitfox IV Speedster >>>> Jabiru 2200, 562 hrs...engine assembled and back in the plane; >>>> ready >>>> to fly >>>> Status: "Condition grounded (not for long, I hope), but >>>> determined to >>>> try." (Pink Floyd..."Learning to Fly") >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message jabiruengine-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/JabiruEngine-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/jabiruengine-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/jabiruengine-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.