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Tue 12/02/08


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     1. 03:21 PM - Re: Fuel Filter (Tim Juhl)
     2. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Filter (Craig Payne)
     3. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Filter (Lynn Matteson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:21:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Filter
    From: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
    I've never seen a fuel filter on any of the production aircraft I've owned or flown, just a gascolator backed up by drain points in the tanks. I haven't decided whether to install a filter or not. I wonder if it isn't just one more point of potential failure. Flame away! Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217404#217404


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    Time: 03:34:26 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Filter
    Well the Jabiru 3300 (hydraulic lifter) installation manual specifically calls for one: "11.2 Fuel Filtration A Fuel filter capable of preventing the passage of particles larger than 0.1mm (100um) must be installed between the fuel tank outlet and the fuel pump. The filter must be present in the system for the fuel flow test. The size of the filter should give consideration to allow adequate flow with a used filter. A Ryco Z15 or similar filter has been used successfully." Rev 1, March 27, 2006, page 21 of 49. I suppose if the mesh in the gascolator met those numbers they would be happy. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Juhl Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:21 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Fuel Filter I've never seen a fuel filter on any of the production aircraft I've owned or flown, just a gascolator backed up by drain points in the tanks. I haven't decided whether to install a filter or not. I wonder if it isn't just one more point of potential failure. Flame away! Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217404#217404


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    Time: 04:37:11 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Filter
    No flames, but no failures either, in any of my three Purolator in- line glass fuel filters in nearly 600 hours of operation....and no gascolator, either. Just a header tank with the wing tanks feeding it, and a sumping point at the bottom. This serves the same purpose as a gascolator. It allows any crap that reaches the header tank to settle to the bottom, where it is "sumped" away the next time fuel is drained...the next day, hopefully. And unlike a gascolator, the capacity of this tank below the fuel outlet port is almost a quart, so you could get really lazy/inattentive and still not get any crap in the outgoing fuel...unless you shook the airplane really violently, then tried to fly it. Then you might get some floating crap into the outlet port. Guess what? Downstream from this header tank is the last of the three filters. And just for the record, I've got 19 hose clamps and more than that in potential points of leakage, if you count the barbed fittings that are screwed into the tanks, valves, filters, firewall pass-through, and carb. Oh, and by the way, this is a high-wing, gravity-flow system. I just found the figures for fuel flow that I posted back on Nov 5, and which I'll paste here: ***** Just for the record, before I removed the fuel pump and fuel pressure gauge sending unit from my system, I measured the fuel flow right at the carb, and it was 11.25 gallons per hour. With the fuel pump and fuel pressure gauge sending unit removed, and 1/4" fuel line in it's place, the flow was 13.6 gallons per hour. This was measured (with about 5 gallons in each of the two wing tanks) by taking the float bowl off and timing the flow of fuel through the carb (with the new 3.7mm float needle seat) for one minute, multiplied by 60. I can now climb as steeply as desired, and the engine doesn't go lean or stumble from lack of fuel. ***** Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, 593hrs Sensenich 62x46 flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition system; also building a new pair of snow skis On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Tim Juhl wrote: > > I've never seen a fuel filter on any of the production aircraft > I've owned or flown, just a gascolator backed up by drain points > in the tanks. I haven't decided whether to install a filter or > not. I wonder if it isn't just one more point of potential failure. > > Flame away! > > Tim > > -------- > ______________ > CFII > Champ L16A flying > Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A > Working on fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217404#217404 > >




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