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I couldn't get the sensenich link to open but found it here under the secti
on for composite props:- http://www.sensenich.com/documents.htm
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1. 01:28 AM - Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300 (chris Sinfield)
2. 04:09 AM - Re: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300 (Richard Girard
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3. 04:32 AM - Oil filter inspection (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9rme_Delam
are?=)
4. 04:32 AM - Re: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
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5. 06:09 AM - Re: Oil filter inspection (pj.ladd)
6. 06:45 AM - Re: Oil filter inspection (Craig Payne)
7. 06:56 AM - Re: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300 (Wayne Flowers)
8. 09:26 AM - Re: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300 (Noel Loveys)
9. 01:22 PM - Re: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300 (Craig Payne)
10. 02:13 PM - Re: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300 (Don Honabach)
11. 02:23 PM - Re: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300 (Bob Haas)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 01:28:47 AM PST US
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Hi all
I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know about
metal
props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get repair info a
nd
limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there is nothing really
like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to send it back to the
USA
for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then again, what is the limit
when
I will need to do this??
Chris
Australia.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 04:09:42 AM PST US
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
Chris, For small chips you can use the classic superglue and baking soda or
microballons as fill. It's messy, but it will work for small stone chips
and
has the advantage of being instant. All you do is put a drop of superglue i
n
the dent and pour in the baking soda or microballons as filler. If you cove
r
with wax paper pulled tightly around the blade, there's almost no need for
sanding. If it doesn't quite fill, just do it again.For slightly larger
dents use JB Weld. Takes 24 hours to cure, and again use wax paper drawn
tightly around the blade to shape the fill and minimize sanding.
For large dents where there is a fair amount of damage to the carbon fiber
it's probably a toss up whether to send the blade back to the USA for a fix
or just buy another blade.
I've used both these fixes on foam core, carbon fiber blades for my
Powerfin
prop. One, a superglue fix, has almost a hundred hours on it and is still
solid.
Rick
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:27 AM, chris Sinfield <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.a
u
> wrote:
> chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
>
> Hi all
> I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know
about
> metal props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get repai
r
> info and limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there is
nothing
> really like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to send it
back
> to the USA for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then again, what
is
> the limit when I will need to do this??
> Chris
> Australia.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 04:32:47 AM PST US
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9rme_Delamare?= <jeromedelamare@free.fr>
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Oil filter inspection
There is a new eea video online : Oil filter inspection.
You can learn a lot of your engine with this simple procedure :
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1431564069/bclid1432781645/bc
t
id3735936001
Jrme
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 04:32:47 AM PST US
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9rme_Delamare?= <jeromedelamare@free.fr>
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
Chris,
You can look at this great eea video :
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1431564069/bclid1432781645/bc
t
id2111048001
Jrme
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris
Sinfield
Sent: mardi 27 janvier 2009 10:27
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Hi all
I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know about
metal props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get repair
info and limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there is nothin
g
really like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to send it back
to the USA for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then again, what is
the limit when I will need to do this??
Chris
Australia.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 06:09:29 AM PST US
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Oil filter inspection
Oil filter inspection.>>
The link doesn`t work
Pat
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 06:45:34 AM PST US
From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Oil filter inspection
The link was split across two lines. The easiest way to fix this is to hit
"reply" and edit the message to join the two lines back together.
Then paste
the whole line into your browser. But the better solution is
"prevention" -
don't post long links. Instead use the tinyurl web site to convert them to
very short links. Here is one to the videos:
http://tinyurl.com/csppbj
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pj.ladd
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Oil filter inspection
Oil filter inspection.>>
The link doesn`t work
Pat
________________________________ Message 7
_____________________________________
Time: 06:56:07 AM PST US
From: "Wayne Flowers" <sonex229@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
Chris, Why don't you send this e-mail to Sensenich? You will get a straight
answer from them, they are good people to work with. Placing this question
here is going to get you a bunch of opinions, from people that do not make
props! Send your question to the attention of Charlie at Sensenich, he can
give you a proper answer.. Regards Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:27 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
> <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
>
> Hi all
> I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know
> about metal props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get
> repair info and limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there
> is nothing really like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to
> send it back to the USA for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then
> again, what is the limit when I will need to do this??
> Chris
> Australia.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
>
>
>
________________________________ Message 8
_____________________________________
Time: 09:26:21 AM PST US
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
Check out the EAA site
http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=8601416001
they have a video on about repairing nicks in composite props. Also contac
t
the manufacturer and ask for assistance... They may help you.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris
Sinfield
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:57 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Hi all
I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know about
metal props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get repair
info and limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there is nothin
g
really like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to send it back
to the USA for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then again, what is
the limit when I will need to do this??
Chris
Australia.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
________________________________ Message 9
_____________________________________
Time: 01:22:04 PM PST US
From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
>From Sensenich at http://www.sensenich.com/misc/LB2EK.pdf (this may not be
applicable to your model of composite prop):
"Minor Blade Repairs -- To be accomplished by an A&P or IA
Minor impact damage, nicks, and gouges in composite material of blade not t
o
exceed .025 depth and or .5 square inches of surface area: Fill with high
strength epoxy resin West System 105/206 or equivalent (NOT 5 minute epoxy)
thickened with aerospace filler material, such as Colloidal Silica 406,
Cabosil, or equivalent. Sand smooth when dry.
Wear and/or roughness of metal erosion shield on blade leading edge: If
metal is not worn through, use 220 grit sandpaper or coarse scotch pad to
remove roughness or minor pitting, being careful to not grind through the
erosion shield. Polish with fine scotch pad or equivalent to remove
scratches.
Paint wear on blade:
NOTE, wear is inevitable on the metal erosion shield. The wear rate depends
on several factors, including high operating RPM's in rain or sandy areas,
FOD on taxiways and runways, etc. Touch up paint using Tempo A150 Flat
Black, A151 Gray (matches the hub color), A152 White, or equivalent.
Sensenich Silver (does not match your hub color) is the original blade colo
r
and is available from the factory. When using touch up paint, keep in mind
that paint can cause an out of balance situation so touch up should be kept
to a minimum."
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris
Sinfield
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:27 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Hi all
I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know about
metal props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get repair
info and limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there is nothin
g
really like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to send it back
to the USA for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then again, what is
the limit when I will need to do this??
Chris
Australia.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
Time: 02:13:44 PM PST US
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
From: "Don Honabach" <don@pcperfect.com>
Craig,
Thanks for posting!
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Payne
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
<craig@craigandjean.com>
>From Sensenich at http://www.sensenich.com/misc/LB2EK.pdf (this may not
be
applicable to your model of composite prop):
"Minor Blade Repairs -- To be accomplished by an A&P or IA
Minor impact damage, nicks, and gouges in composite material of blade
not to
exceed .025 depth and or .5 square inches of surface area: Fill with
high
strength epoxy resin West System 105/206 or equivalent (NOT 5 minute
epoxy)
thickened with aerospace filler material, such as Colloidal Silica 406,
Cabosil, or equivalent. Sand smooth when dry.
Wear and/or roughness of metal erosion shield on blade leading edge: If
metal is not worn through, use 220 grit sandpaper or coarse scotch pad
to
remove roughness or minor pitting, being careful to not grind through
the
erosion shield. Polish with fine scotch pad or equivalent to remove
scratches.
Paint wear on blade:
NOTE, wear is inevitable on the metal erosion shield. The wear rate
depends
on several factors, including high operating RPM's in rain or sandy
areas,
FOD on taxiways and runways, etc. Touch up paint using Tempo A150 Flat
Black, A151 Gray (matches the hub color), A152 White, or equivalent.
Sensenich Silver (does not match your hub color) is the original blade
color
and is available from the factory. When using touch up paint, keep in
mind
that paint can cause an out of balance situation so touch up should be
kept
to a minimum."
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris
Sinfield
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:27 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Hi all
I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know
about
metal props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get
repair
info and limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there is
nothing
really like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to send it
back
to the USA for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then again, what
is
the limit when I will need to do this??
Chris
Australia.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
________________________________ Message 11
____________________________________
Time: 02:23:53 PM PST US
From: "Bob Haas" <checkpoint2@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
I have a Sensenich Adjustable with over a 100 hrs, the person to
contact is Charley Denny (charleyd@sensenchprop.com). He builds them!
Bob Haas.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris
Sinfield
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:27 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Sensenich composite prop on Jab3300
<chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
Hi all
I have a new Ground adjustable Sensenich prop on my Zodiac XL. I know about
metal props, and wooden props but Composite ones??? Where can I get repair
info and limits on these props? I dont live in the USA and there is nothin
g
really like this on the Sensenich web site and I dont want to send it back
to the USA for what may be a repairable stone chip, but then again, what is
the limit when I will need to do this??
Chris
Australia.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=227030#227030
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