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Sun 05/03/09


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     1. 10:09 AM - Re: Official JabiruEngine-List Usage Guidelines (Bob Haas)
     2. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: Gull Wing Mods (oldbldplt@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:09:04 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Haas" <checkpoint2@COMCAST.NET>
    Subject: Official JabiruEngine-List Usage Guidelines
    Why don't you publish a bound book? -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 2:03 AM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Official JabiruEngine-List Usage Guidelines Dear Listers, Please read over the JabiruEngine-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete JabiruEngine-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/JabiruEngine-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator **************************************************************************** ** JabiruEngine-List Usage Guidelines **************************************************************************** ** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the JabiruEngine-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the JabiruEngine-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. JabiruEngine-List Policy Statement The purpose of the JabiruEngine-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] do not archive Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 17:52:00


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    Time: 11:02:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gull Wing Mods
    From: oldbldplt@aol.com
    Hey John, I'd love to see your pictures... sounds like a neat mod.? Please send to oldbldplt@aol.com Thanks,? Marvin -----Original Message----- From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com Sent: Sat, 2 May 2009 5:50 am Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Gull Wing Mods ? ? In a message dated 5/2/2009 3:08:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jabiruengine-list@matronics.com writes: Have you done this mod???? ? Greetings, ? I have a 3300 installed in a Europa. About two years ago I modified the "gull wings" to include a hole in them about?one sq. in.?or so in total area on each wing. The shape of the hole?resembles a pentagram with the pointy side towards the crankcase.?This allows air to spill down the inside of the heads and between the cylinder barrels. While the gull wing is not completely removed, this modification?did help with lowering?head temps in climb. I recall I?tested with the gull wings removed completely and it did not help my set up. ? Last fall I added a "step"? or reverse scoop to my lower cowl just before the exit hole. This step, or reverse scoop, serves to create an area of low pressure at the point where the cooling flow exits the lower cowl. The effect is similar to the "lips" often seen on lower cowls, but is?more aerodynamic. The step was molded onto the lower cowl by carefully shaping foam, then glassing over it and painting. It extends about?4" below the?lower cowl and belly of the aircraft and is approximately 10" wide, equal to the width of the exit hole.?This helped significantly. Essentially, what I did was copy what Mooney, Cirrus, Columbia and other "modern" aircraft are doing in regard to their lower cowls to enhance exit cooling flow. It also hides the exhaust stacks and helps to hide the Europa's lower stainless firewall and nose gear leg gusset from the relative wind in climb and cruise attitudes. Both the lower fire wall and nose gear leg gusset were flat to the airflow in climb and somewhat exposed in cruise. Manometer testing showed that these two components were causing an area of high pressure at the exit hole prior to the installation of the step. The change in the gull wings and the addition of the step on the lower cowl reduced the ambient pressure inside the internal head cooling ducts, increasing flow, and lowering head temps by an average of 25F. Pictures available upon request. ? Regards, ? John Lawton Whitwell, TN (TN89) Europa N245E - Flying Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar!




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