---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/05/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:55 AM - Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested (dons701) 2. 02:03 PM - Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested (EdgePerformance) 3. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested (Lynn Matteson) 4. 03:57 PM - Re: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested (Don Honabach) 5. 04:28 PM - Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested (EdgePerformance) 6. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested (Don Honabach) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:43 AM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested From: "dons701" Looks like lotsa fun ! Good job ! The only thing I would be carefull of though is where you have returned the oil from the turbo to the engine. After going through the high speed bearings the oil can get quite frothy and in this state can have difficulty getting back to the engine when returned to the bottom of the oil pan against liquid oil head pressure. If this is the case, what sometimes happens is that foamy drained oil backs up into the bearing housing and floods it's way past the labyrinth seal on the turbine wheel. Typically oil is returned to a location above the oil level clear of the spinning crankshaft so as not to be "picked up" and add mass to the crank. Not easily done, especially on the Jab. 2200 !! Did you use an automotive turbo or is it a custom ordered type ?? What size prop did you install to take advantage of the newly found torque ?? Again, nice job and good luck ! Don Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246954#246954 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:35 PM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested From: "EdgePerformance" Hi, Thanks, I use a old draw through non ball bearing turbo with graphite seals to prevent fuel mixture to enter into the glide-bearing. The oil drain is no problem. I have watched the return oil dripping into a clear bottle and its not foamy. I use a jabiru 85hp GT-Prop from a sonex Not sure of the length and pitch, but the 85hp engine it sat on didn't make more than 3000RPM level on full throttle I believe. I also have a ground adjustable sensenich prop. I only managed to get 2850rpm`s on full throttle level flight on the mildest pitch setting #1 before the convertion and now it does easely 3200rpm on ground on pitch setting #5. So I believe it makes some where between 100-115HP on 6.5psi of boost. -------- Kitfox IV w\ Jabiru 2200 Turbo\Aerocarb Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246995#246995 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:21 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested Do you think the Jabiru is capable of holding up under the increase in power? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 668.9 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:00 PM, EdgePerformance wrote: > > > Hi, > > Thanks, I use a old draw through non ball bearing turbo with > graphite seals to prevent fuel mixture to enter into the glide- > bearing. > > The oil drain is no problem. I have watched the return oil dripping > into a clear bottle and its not foamy. > > I use a jabiru 85hp GT-Prop from a sonex Not sure of the length and > pitch, but the 85hp engine it sat on didn't make more than 3000RPM > level on full throttle I believe. > > I also have a ground adjustable sensenich prop. I only managed to > get 2850rpm`s on full throttle level flight on the mildest pitch > setting #1 before the convertion and now it does easely 3200rpm on > ground on pitch setting #5. So I believe it makes some where > between 100-115HP on 6.5psi of boost. > > -------- > Kitfox IV w\ Jabiru 2200 Turbo\Aerocarb > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246995#246995 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:44 PM PST US Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested From: "Don Honabach" I'm interested in seeing the real world longevity of the changes as well - 1/2 TBO, sounds like a fun thing to do; 1/16 TBO and then I'm probably not interested; no TBO difference - where do I sign up! The one things I haven't had a chance is to fine tune my 3300A setup. I know that there is some HP I'm losing because I don't have a perfect air intake and so on. It amazes me how a small change can make a noticeable change in HP even in a 'standard' setup. Any testing for altitude and how the HP holds up when above 10k? Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:22 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested Do you think the Jabiru is capable of holding up under the increase in power? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 668.9 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:00 PM, EdgePerformance wrote: > > > Hi, > > Thanks, I use a old draw through non ball bearing turbo with > graphite seals to prevent fuel mixture to enter into the glide- > bearing. > > The oil drain is no problem. I have watched the return oil dripping > into a clear bottle and its not foamy. > > I use a jabiru 85hp GT-Prop from a sonex Not sure of the length and > pitch, but the 85hp engine it sat on didn't make more than 3000RPM > level on full throttle I believe. > > I also have a ground adjustable sensenich prop. I only managed to > get 2850rpm`s on full throttle level flight on the mildest pitch > setting #1 before the convertion and now it does easely 3200rpm on > ground on pitch setting #5. So I believe it makes some where > between 100-115HP on 6.5psi of boost. > > -------- > Kitfox IV w\ Jabiru 2200 Turbo\Aerocarb > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=246995#246995 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:33 PM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested From: "EdgePerformance" Haven't been over 10k ft yet, But even at 6 and 7 thousand feet it climbs just as good as on 1000ft. I have had only 6 hours on it now, but will fly as much as i can. -------- Kitfox IV w\ Jabiru 2200 Turbo\Aerocarb Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247017#247017 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:37 PM PST US Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested From: "Don Honabach" Gotcha! Nice to see someone experimenting :) Please keep us all in the loop - sounds awesome! Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EdgePerformance Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: jabiru 2200 Turbo - Just finished and tested Haven't been over 10k ft yet, But even at 6 and 7 thousand feet it climbs just as good as on 1000ft. I have had only 6 hours on it now, but will fly as much as i can. -------- Kitfox IV w\ Jabiru 2200 Turbo\Aerocarb Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247017#247017 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message jabiruengine-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/JabiruEngine-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/jabiruengine-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/jabiruengine-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.