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1. 04:13 AM - Re: Oil Burn (DaveG601XL)
2. 06:10 AM - Re: oil Usage (Bob Vossman)
3. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: oil Usage (zeprep251@aol.com)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: oil Usage (T. Graziano)
5. 12:12 PM - Max length of oil cooler pipes (James, Clive R)
6. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: oil Usage (Lynn Matteson)
7. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: Oil Burn (Lynn Matteson)
8. 12:28 PM - Re: Re: oil Usage (Lynn Matteson)
9. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: oil Usage (Kayberg@AOL.COM)
10. 08:56 PM - Re: oil Usage (ces308)
11. 09:49 PM - Re: Oil Burn (Stephen Smith)
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With 87 or so total time on the hobbs, I am burning about 1/2 - 3/4 oz. per hour
on 15W50. I had about that same rate on straight mineral oil during break-in.
On my first oil change at 25 hours, I went to W100 and for some reason my
consumption rate about quadrupled. When winter approached, I changed to 15W50.
Seeing that consumption rate drop back down, I have not even considered going
back to W100 this summer. Don't know why the big difference in consumption
between the oil types.
BTW, I keep my oil level between 1/4 and 1/2 on the dip stick per a verbal suggestion
that, I believe, came from Pete.
Good Luck,
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David Gallagher
601 XL/Jabiru 3300
First flight 7/24/08
85 hours and climbing!
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I have 200 hrs on my Jab 2200. I add 4 oz about every 3 hours to keep
the level between "add oil" mark and 1/3 up the dipstick.
Bob Sonex/Jab 2200
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| Subject: | Re: RE: oil Usage |
I have 440hrs on the 2200a in a MK3-C Kolb My vent system enters a 1 pint catch
bottle then vents overboard The airframe stays clean by the vent hose,so all
the oil ends up in the bottle.This indicates to me that the vent system on this
engine requires some rethinking by Jabiru.My IO-470 continental used less oil
in 25 hrs than the Jabiru does in 5hrs.This is a great little engine,they just
need to tweak it in the vent and intake systems.
? ? ? Gary Aman ?? Akron Oh
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From: Bob Vossman <bvossman@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51 am
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: RE: oil Usage
I have 200 hrs on my Jab 2200.? I add 4 oz about
every 3 hours to keep the level between "add oil" mark and 1/3 up the
dipstick.
?
Bob? Sonex/Jab 2200
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| Subject: | Re: RE: oil Usage |
That is about what I use on my Jab3300, possibly slightly more, and also
about the same dipstick reading for add of oil.
Tony Graziano
Zodiac XL/Jab3300; 506 hrs.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Vossman
To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:51 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: RE: oil Usage
I have 200 hrs on my Jab 2200. I add 4 oz about every 3 hours to keep
the level between "add oil" mark and 1/3 up the dipstick.
Bob Sonex/Jab 2200
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| Subject: | Max length of oil cooler pipes |
Well my plan to fit the cooler up front seems doomed to failure so It
will need to go on the firewall ala Lightning, thing is my battery is
already in the way for the pilots side mount.
So, does any one know what length I can make the hoses? To fit my cooler
on the other side and they'll be 1.1 metres or 3.6 feet each way, lots
of extra cooling but what about the flow business?
Any idea of max length, AN6 fittings and hose and the donut bored out
with 1/4 npt fittings?
Regards, Clive
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| Subject: | Re: RE: oil Usage |
What serial number?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 687.3 hrs
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:37 AM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote:
> I have 440hrs on the 2200a in a MK3-C Kolb My vent system enters a
> 1 pint catch bottle then vents overboard The airframe stays clean
> by the vent hose,so all the oil ends up in the bottle.This
> indicates to me that the vent system on this engine requires some
> rethinking by Jabiru.My IO-470 continental used less oil in 25 hrs
> than the Jabiru does in 5hrs.This is a great little engine,they
> just need to tweak it in the vent and intake systems.
> Gary Aman Akron Oh
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Vossman <bvossman@austin.rr.com>
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51 am
> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: RE: oil Usage
>
> I have 200 hrs on my Jab 2200. I add 4 oz about every 3 hours to
> keep the level between "add oil" mark and 1/3 up the dipstick.
>
> Bob Sonex/Jab 2200
>
>
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What serial number?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 687.3 hrs
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Jul 2, 2009, at 7:12 AM, DaveG601XL wrote:
> <david.m.gallagher@ge.com>
>
> With 87 or so total time on the hobbs, I am burning about 1/2 - 3/4
> oz. per hour on 15W50. I had about that same rate on straight
> mineral oil during break-in. On my first oil change at 25 hours, I
> went to W100 and for some reason my consumption rate about
> quadrupled. When winter approached, I changed to 15W50. Seeing
> that consumption rate drop back down, I have not even considered
> going back to W100 this summer. Don't know why the big difference
> in consumption between the oil types.
>
> BTW, I keep my oil level between 1/4 and 1/2 on the dip stick per a
> verbal suggestion that, I believe, came from Pete.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> --------
> David Gallagher
> 601 XL/Jabiru 3300
> First flight 7/24/08
> 85 hours and climbing!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=251090#251090
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: oil Usage |
What serial number?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 687.3 hrs
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Status: flying
do not archive
On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Bob Vossman wrote:
> I have 200 hrs on my Jab 2200. I add 4 oz about every 3 hours to
> keep the level between "add oil" mark and 1/3 up the dipstick.
>
> Bob Sonex/Jab 2200
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| Subject: | Re: RE: oil Usage |
In a message dated 7/2/2009 9:40:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
zeprep251@aol.com writes:
I have 440hrs on the 2200a in a MK3-C Kolb My vent system enters a 1 pint
catch bottle then vents overboard The airframe stays clean by the vent
hose,so all the oil ends up in the bottle.This indicates to me that the vent
system on this engine requires some rethinking by Jabiru.My IO-470
continental used less oil in 25 hrs than the Jabiru does in 5hrs.This is a great
little engine,they just need to tweak it in the vent and intake systems.
The question of oil usage should be factored depending on the mission
profile.
If you have a bird that can be whipped around, the oil can accumulate in
the overflow bottle rather rapidly. If you always fly like grandma, not
more than 30 degree banks and all positive G's, then you may only be burning
it. Of course it will depend on where and how you place you overflow
bottle.
It will also depend on wether you overfill your oil regularly.
On a Kolb, you can get hammered around by thermals, so oil can be slopped
up into the vent hose.
Since most Continentals use about a quart in 5-10 hours, that means your
Jabiru must be using from 2.5 to 5 quarts in 5 hours!! Seems to me that
something else is going on.
My experience is that Jabs do not burn much oil, but they can slop it with
the best of them.
Doug Koenigsberg.
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I have put very little in my A-2200 on my Kolb M3X with 32 hrs on it .However,I
will pay close attention to what I add from here on out. And the vent catch on
my engine seems to be a water/oil mix as it is very thin for it to be all oil
not to mention if it was all oil from the crank case,then why is the oil level
ok? After 2-3 hrs I empty the maybe 3-4 oz cup which is about 1/2 full. I
simply soak what is in there with a paper towel and discard.
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab
N327CS
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My 3300 has been flying for two years and has about 550 hours on it. Here in Santa
Rosa California I use Aeroshell 15w50 in the winter and Aeroshell 100 plus
in the summer. Consumption has gone up over the past 150 hours or so. It is
now at about 1 quart per 450 miles.
I have minor seepage in several places on the engine but nothing I would call a
leak. The volume of oil in the separator has been going up, but sure does not
account for anything like the quantity being consumed. The spark plugs look
reasonable - not fouled or dark. Compression check 25 hours ago is down to 70,
76, 74, 68, 60, 75. Not sure where the oil is going if its not past the rings
and out the tail pipe.
Yes, I toss my plane around a bit - it asks for it, I swear! In high angle climbs
and steep banks I can smell hot oil for a few seconds.
Frankly the consumption seem quite high and a bit disappointing. Anyone else with
550 or more hours? What is your consumption?
My engine's dipstick had the S turns in it. I have flattened them out which makes
the dipstick longer and allows me to use the original marks for full/add while
having the oil level a bit lower. It also makes it less likely the oil level
will be off the end of the dipstick. When that happens, you don't know how
much to add.
Steve
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