---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/21/09: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:17 AM - Re: Fuel (Hollis Babb) 2. 09:19 AM - CORRECTION Jabiru price (Victor Menkal) 3. 02:55 PM - Re: Fuel (Peter Harris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:29 AM PST US From: "Hollis Babb" Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel Ask Nick at: Phone: 931-680-1781 Fax: 931-680-1817 Email: nick@flylightning.net WEB: www.flylightning.net They use it in the Lightning that they build. They use the Jabaru 3300 in it. They are there with Jabaru of America, where, I believe all Jabaru engines for the US are shipped. raft, LLC 2842 Highway 231 North Shelbyville, TN 37160 Located on the Shelbyville Municipal Airport (SYI) Hollis Babb Sailing Plus Computer Repair Web Design and Hosting Sailor@mindspring.com www.SailingPlusStore.com 256-506-2834 _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Harris Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:07 PM Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel Hollis, Have you got details of the stuff? Thanks Peter _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hollis Babb Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 11:25 AM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel Kit builders now have a coating for the tanks so that is not a problem. Sent from my iPhone Hollis Babb 256-506-2834 On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:02 PM, "Peter Harris" wrote: Bobby I think you will find that Ethanol is a solvent for epoxy resin. Not sure if you have FG tanks? Peter _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobbyPaulk@COMCAST.NET Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2009 9:53 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel List, Is anyone using Auto Fuel with Ethanol. I am particularly interested in the 601 XL with Jabiru 3300 but would like data on any low wing with pumped fuel. I know some Rotax pilots using it but they have gravity fed fuel systems. I plan on starting test at altitude by using one tank for 100 LL and the other for High Octane BP that formerly was Amoco White gas. I was using it before the change to Ethanol but have had concerns about it now. Even using 100 LL I get a lower pressure with the boost pump prior to start when the engine is hot and been sitting for a while. My main concern would be at Take Off with a hot engine and lose fuel fuel pressure due to Vaporization or cavitation. Ground temperature is normally over 90 deg. in summer. anyone have experience with this ?? Bobby 601 XL 87 Hrs. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEngine-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:29 AM PST US From: Victor Menkal Subject: JabiruEngine-List: CORRECTION Jabiru price My most humble apologies Pete and Jabiru! Terrible mistake. My posting seeking technical information incorrectly estimated installed cost of Jab 3300 including FWF at $24,500. I mistakenly switched the numbers between the jab and the rotax. The estimated installed price of the Jab is $20,450 and the Rotax $24,500! (these are my estimates for complete installation only and not from suppliers). I would like to thank all the folks who took the time to respond to this request for info. Fascinating "real" world data. And I must add that all reports I received on the Jabiru engine and especially the support and service from Jabiru USA were very positive! I now have to go back to digging the hole in my backyard into which I will leap and cover with my airframe. Cheers Cpt Vic Zenair CH750 in progress Most likely Jab3300 Whitehorse Yukon Canada ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:14 PM PST US From: "Peter Harris" Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel Thanks Hollis! Peter _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hollis Babb Sent: Saturday, 22 August 2009 1:55 AM Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel Ask Nick at: Phone: 931-680-1781 Fax: 931-680-1817 Email: nick@flylightning.net WEB: www.flylightning.net They use it in the Lightning that they build. They use the Jabaru 3300 in it. They are there with Jabaru of America, where, I believe all Jabaru engines for the US are shipped. raft, LLC 2842 Highway 231 North Shelbyville, TN 37160 Located on the Shelbyville Municipal Airport (SYI) Hollis Babb Sailing Plus Computer Repair Web Design and Hosting Sailor@mindspring.com www.SailingPlusStore.com 256-506-2834 _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Harris Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:07 PM Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel Hollis, Have you got details of the stuff? Thanks Peter _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hollis Babb Sent: Friday, 21 August 2009 11:25 AM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel Kit builders now have a coating for the tanks so that is not a problem. Sent from my iPhone Hollis Babb 256-506-2834 On Aug 20, 2009, at 7:02 PM, "Peter Harris" wrote: Bobby I think you will find that Ethanol is a solvent for epoxy resin. Not sure if you have FG tanks? Peter _____ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BobbyPaulk@COMCAST.NET Sent: Thursday, 20 August 2009 9:53 PM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Fuel List, Is anyone using Auto Fuel with Ethanol. I am particularly interested in the 601 XL with Jabiru 3300 but would like data on any low wing with pumped fuel. I know some Rotax pilots using it but they have gravity fed fuel systems. I plan on starting test at altitude by using one tank for 100 LL and the other for High Octane BP that formerly was Amoco White gas. I was using it before the change to Ethanol but have had concerns about it now. Even using 100 LL I get a lower pressure with the boost pump prior to start when the engine is hot and been sitting for a while. My main concern would be at Take Off with a hot engine and lose fuel fuel pressure due to Vaporization or cavitation. Ground temperature is normally over 90 deg. in summer. anyone have experience with this ?? 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