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1. 10:53 AM - SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (AZFlyer)
2. 12:40 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Ivan)
3. 12:51 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (BILL FISHER)
4. 12:53 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Lynn Matteson)
5. 01:50 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Ivan)
6. 01:51 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Ivan)
7. 02:46 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (AZFlyer)
8. 03:10 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Craig Payne)
9. 04:25 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Lynn Matteson)
10. 05:13 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (zeprep251@aol.com)
11. 06:55 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Lynn Matteson)
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| Subject: | SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
List,
Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab. 2200/3300
engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the drain from the
bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air
valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve
a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
...or maybe another mfgr?
Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at Jabiru USA.
It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont even get my fingers
dirty >
Ivan
Phoenix, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
>
> List,
>
> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab.
> 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the
> drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This
> makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg.
> nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
>
> ...or maybe another mfgr?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> --------
> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon
>
> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
Mike
I bought a quick drain valve, I think through Spruce, tat would not work
when I tried it. I contacted the manufacturer who happened to be
located in Chandler, AZ. He was just finishing an elbow to fix the
problem. I got to install the prototype on my 3300A. Worked great
although it was a little expensive.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: AZFlyer<mailto:millrML@AOL.com>
To:
jabiruengine-list@matronics.com<mailto:jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
<millrML@AOL.com<mailto:millrML@AOL.com>>
List,
Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab.
2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved
the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300).
This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90
deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
...or maybe another mfgr?
Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com<mailto:millrml@aol.com>
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
Read this topic online here:
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.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357>
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying
do not archive
On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote:
>
> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at
> Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont
> even get my fingers dirty >
>
> Ivan
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM
> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
>
>
>>
>> List,
>>
>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the
>> Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab
>> has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case
>> with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless.
>> Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve a good
>> way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
>>
>> ...or maybe another mfgr?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>>
>> --------
>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon
>>
>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from lubing
the gasket :)>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
>
> I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : )
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying
> do not archive
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote:
>
>>
>> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at Jabiru
>> USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont even get my
>> fingers dirty >
>>
>> Ivan
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
>> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM
>> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
>>
>>
>>>
>>> List,
>>>
>>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab.
>>> 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved
>>> the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300).
>>> This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90
>>> deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
>>>
>>> ...or maybe another mfgr?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
>>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon
>>>
>>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
Bill
That is why I just got mine from Pete. Curtis, in Chandler, was about
the same price but atleast when I got it from Jabiru USA I knew I would
get exactly what I needed with the correct 90 deg elbow.
Ivan
----- Original Message -----
From: BILL FISHER
To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
Mike
I bought a quick drain valve, I think through Spruce, tat would not
work when I tried it. I contacted the manufacturer who happened to be
located in Chandler, AZ. He was just finishing an elbow to fix the
problem. I got to install the prototype on my 3300A. Worked great
although it was a little expensive.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: AZFlyer
To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
List,
Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the
Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has
moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my
3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody
found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N
05-00986
...or maybe another mfgr?
Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
Wow,
Appreciate all your responses. Thanks!
Back to building...
Mike
--------
Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267386#267386
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| Subject: | SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
Curtis (and Spruce) also sell a quick drain for Jabirus. The Spruce p/n for
the Curtis drain for the Jabiru is 05-03698 ($31.75). And they have a 90
degrees adapter. The Spruce p/n for the Curtis adapter is 08-06258 ($49.75).
You can buy them as a pair for $79.95 (Spruce p/n 05-03540).
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AZFlyer
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
List,
Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab.
2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the
drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This makes
the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that
makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
...or maybe another mfgr?
Thanks,
Mike
--------
Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
601 XL, 3300, Dynon
Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
I was referring to the mess that runs down the side of the engine
from the filter, then...in my case...behind the aluminum tunnel that
houses my oil cooler. I try to catch it with paper towels, but some
always gets by. I made an aluminum tray device to try to catch the
oil, but it's more of a hassle than it's worth, so I have just
resigned myself to plan on a cleanup at every oil/filter
change....and they come often, the way I fly.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying
On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Ivan wrote:
>
> Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from
> lubing the gasket :)>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
>
>
>> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>>
>> I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : )
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
>> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
>> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
>> Rotec TBI-40 injection
>> Status: flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at
>>> Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont
>>> even get my fingers dirty >
>>>
>>> Ivan
>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
>>> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM
>>> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
>>>
>>>
>>>> <millrML@AOL.com>
>>>>
>>>> List,
>>>>
>>>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for
>>>> the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding
>>>> that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is
>>>> the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve
>>>> useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this
>>>> valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
>>>>
>>>> ...or maybe another mfgr?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> --------
>>>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
>>>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon
>>>>
>>>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
Lynn,
Had a buddy who would punch a hole in the filter and let it drain where he could
catch it.I never thought it was very sporting.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2009 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
?
I was referring to the mess that runs down the side of the engine from the filter,
then...in my case...behind the aluminum tunnel that houses my oil cooler.
I try to catch it with paper towels, but some always gets by. I made an aluminum
tray device to try to catch the oil, but it's more of a hassle than it's worth,
so I have just resigned myself to plan on a cleanup at every oil/filter change....and
they come often, the way I fly.?
?
Lynn Matteson?
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger?
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs?
Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go?
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop?
Electroair direct-fire ignition system?
Rotec TBI-40 injection?
Status: flying?
?
?
?
On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Ivan wrote:?
?
>?
> Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from > lubing the
gasket :)>?
>?
>?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>?
> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>?
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM?
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve?
>?
>?
>>?
>> I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : )?
>>?
>> Lynn Matteson?
>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger?
>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs?
>> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go?
>> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop?
>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system?
>> Rotec TBI-40 injection?
>> Status: flying?
>> do not archive?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote:?
>>?
>>>?
>>> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at >>> Jabiru
USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont >>> even get my fingers
dirty >?
>>>?
>>> Ivan?
>>> Phoenix, AZ?
>>>?
>>>?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>?
>>> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>?
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM?
>>> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve?
>>>?
>>>?
>>>>?
>>>> List,?
>>>>?
>>>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for >>>> the Jab.
2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding >>>> that Jab has moved
the drain from the bottom to the side (as is >>>> the case with my 3300). This
makes the straight Saf-Air valve >>>> useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg.
nipple that makes this >>>> valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986?
>>>>?
>>>> ...or maybe another mfgr??
>>>>?
>>>> Thanks,?
>>>> Mike?
>>>>?
>>>> --------?
>>>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com?
>>>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon?
>>>>?
>>>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>> Read this topic online here:?
>>>>?
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>>?
>>>?
>>>?
>>>?
>>>?
>>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>?
>?
>?
>?
>?
?
?
?
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| Subject: | Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve |
Not very sporting, indeed! I once bought one of those "hose clamp-
hole punching-drain tube thingies", and used it once. I guess deep
down I didn't think IT was too sporting either. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying
do not archive
On Oct 10, 2009, at 8:05 PM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote:
> Lynn,
> Had a buddy who would punch a hole in the filter and let it drain
> where he could catch it.I never thought it was very sporting.
> G.Aman
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2009 7:24 pm
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
>
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
> I was referring to the mess that runs down the side of the engine
> from the filter, then...in my case...behind the aluminum tunnel
> that houses my oil cooler. I try to catch it with paper towels, but
> some always gets by. I made an aluminum tray device to try to catch
> the oil, but it's more of a hassle than it's worth, so I have just
> resigned myself to plan on a cleanup at every oil/filter
> change....and they come often, the way I fly.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Ivan wrote:
>
> >
> > Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from
> > lubing the gasket :)>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson"
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> > To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
> >
> >
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> >>
> >> I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : )
> >>
> >> Lynn Matteson
> >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> >> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs
> >> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go
> >> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> >> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> >> Status: flying
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete
> at >>> Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze.
> Dont >>> even get my fingers dirty >
> >>>
> >>> Ivan
> >>> Phoenix, AZ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
> >>> To: <jabiruengine-list@matronics.com>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM
> >>> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve
> >>>
> >>>
> <millrML@AOL.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> List,
> >>>>
> >>>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for
> >>>> the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding
> >>>> that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as
> is >>>> the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air
> valve >>>> useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes
> this >>>> valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986
> >>>>
> >>>> ...or maybe another mfgr?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> --------
> >>>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com
> >>>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon
> >>>>
> >>>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> Read this topic online here:
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> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357
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