---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/10/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:53 AM - SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (AZFlyer) 2. 12:40 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Ivan) 3. 12:51 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (BILL FISHER) 4. 12:53 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Lynn Matteson) 5. 01:50 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Ivan) 6. 01:51 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Ivan) 7. 02:46 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (AZFlyer) 8. 03:10 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Craig Payne) 9. 04:25 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Lynn Matteson) 10. 05:13 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (zeprep251@aol.com) 11. 06:55 PM - Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve (Lynn Matteson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:02 AM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve From: "AZFlyer" List, Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 ...or maybe another mfgr? Thanks, Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:06 PM PST US From: "Ivan" Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont even get my fingers dirty > Ivan Phoenix, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > > List, > > Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab. > 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the > drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This > makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. > nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 > > ...or maybe another mfgr? > > Thanks, > Mike > > -------- > Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com > 601 XL, 3300, Dynon > > Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:34 PM PST US From: "BILL FISHER" Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve Mike I bought a quick drain valve, I think through Spruce, tat would not work when I tried it. I contacted the manufacturer who happened to be located in Chandler, AZ. He was just finishing an elbow to fix the problem. I got to install the prototype on my 3300A. Worked great although it was a little expensive. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: AZFlyer To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > List, Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 ...or maybe another mfgr? Thanks, Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEngine-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:49 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote: > > I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at > Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont > even get my fingers dirty > > > Ivan > Phoenix, AZ > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM > Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > > >> >> List, >> >> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the >> Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab >> has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case >> with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. >> Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve a good >> way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 >> >> ...or maybe another mfgr? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> -------- >> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com >> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon >> >> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:50:14 PM PST US From: "Ivan" Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from lubing the gasket :)> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > > I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : ) > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying > do not archive > > > On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote: > >> >> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at Jabiru >> USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont even get my >> fingers dirty > >> >> Ivan >> Phoenix, AZ >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM >> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve >> >> >>> >>> List, >>> >>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab. >>> 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved >>> the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). >>> This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 >>> deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 >>> >>> ...or maybe another mfgr? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mike >>> >>> -------- >>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com >>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon >>> >>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:07 PM PST US From: "Ivan" Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve Bill That is why I just got mine from Pete. Curtis, in Chandler, was about the same price but atleast when I got it from Jabiru USA I knew I would get exactly what I needed with the correct 90 deg elbow. Ivan ----- Original Message ----- From: BILL FISHER To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve Mike I bought a quick drain valve, I think through Spruce, tat would not work when I tried it. I contacted the manufacturer who happened to be located in Chandler, AZ. He was just finishing an elbow to fix the problem. I got to install the prototype on my 3300A. Worked great although it was a little expensive. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: AZFlyer To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve List, Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 ...or maybe another mfgr? Thanks, Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 http://www.nbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:02 PM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve From: "AZFlyer" Wow, Appreciate all your responses. Thanks! Back to building... Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267386#267386 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:35 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve Curtis (and Spruce) also sell a quick drain for Jabirus. The Spruce p/n for the Curtis drain for the Jabiru is 05-03698 ($31.75). And they have a 90 degrees adapter. The Spruce p/n for the Curtis adapter is 08-06258 ($49.75). You can buy them as a pair for $79.95 (Spruce p/n 05-03540). -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AZFlyer Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve List, Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 ...or maybe another mfgr? Thanks, Mike -------- Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com 601 XL, 3300, Dynon Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:25:39 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve I was referring to the mess that runs down the side of the engine from the filter, then...in my case...behind the aluminum tunnel that houses my oil cooler. I try to catch it with paper towels, but some always gets by. I made an aluminum tray device to try to catch the oil, but it's more of a hassle than it's worth, so I have just resigned myself to plan on a cleanup at every oil/filter change....and they come often, the way I fly. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Ivan wrote: > > Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from > lubing the gasket :)> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > > >> >> >> I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : ) >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs >> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go >> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >> Rotec TBI-40 injection >> Status: flying >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote: >> >>> >>> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at >>> Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont >>> even get my fingers dirty > >>> >>> Ivan >>> Phoenix, AZ >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM >>> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> List, >>>> >>>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for >>>> the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding >>>> that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is >>>> the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve >>>> useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this >>>> valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 >>>> >>>> ...or maybe another mfgr? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com >>>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon >>>> >>>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Read this topic online here: >>>> >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve From: zeprep251@aol.com Lynn, Had a buddy who would punch a hole in the filter and let it drain where he could catch it.I never thought it was very sporting. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Matteson Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2009 7:24 pm Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve ? I was referring to the mess that runs down the side of the engine from the filter, then...in my case...behind the aluminum tunnel that houses my oil cooler. I try to catch it with paper towels, but some always gets by. I made an aluminum tray device to try to catch the oil, but it's more of a hassle than it's worth, so I have just resigned myself to plan on a cleanup at every oil/filter change....and they come often, the way I fly.? ? Lynn Matteson? Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger? Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs? Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go? Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop? Electroair direct-fire ignition system? Rotec TBI-40 injection? Status: flying? ? ? ? On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Ivan wrote:? ? >? > Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from > lubing the gasket :)>? >? >? > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" ? > To: ? > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM? > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve? >? >? >>? >> I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : )? >>? >> Lynn Matteson? >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger? >> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs? >> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go? >> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop? >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system? >> Rotec TBI-40 injection? >> Status: flying? >> do not archive? >>? >>? >>? >>? >>? >> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote:? >>? >>>? >>> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete at >>> Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. Dont >>> even get my fingers dirty >? >>>? >>> Ivan? >>> Phoenix, AZ? >>>? >>>? >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" ? >>> To: ? >>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM? >>> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve? >>>? >>>? >>>>? >>>> List,? >>>>? >>>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for >>>> the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding >>>> that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as is >>>> the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air valve >>>> useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes this >>>> valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986? >>>>? >>>> ...or maybe another mfgr?? >>>>? >>>> Thanks,? >>>> Mike? >>>>? >>>> --------? >>>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com? >>>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon? >>>>? >>>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"!? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>> Read this topic online here:? >>>>? >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>>? >>? >>? >>? >>? >? >? >? >? >? ? ? ? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:16 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve Not very sporting, indeed! I once bought one of those "hose clamp- hole punching-drain tube thingies", and used it once. I guess deep down I didn't think IT was too sporting either. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Oct 10, 2009, at 8:05 PM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote: > Lynn, > Had a buddy who would punch a hole in the filter and let it drain > where he could catch it.I never thought it was very sporting. > G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynn Matteson > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2009 7:24 pm > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > > > > I was referring to the mess that runs down the side of the engine > from the filter, then...in my case...behind the aluminum tunnel > that houses my oil cooler. I try to catch it with paper towels, but > some always gets by. I made an aluminum tray device to try to catch > the oil, but it's more of a hassle than it's worth, so I have just > resigned myself to plan on a cleanup at every oil/filter > change....and they come often, the way I fly. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying > > > On Oct 10, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Ivan wrote: > > > > > Nope !. I let it drain well and only get my index finger wet from > > lubing the gasket :)> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" > > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:53 PM > > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > > > > > > >> > >> I'll bet you get 'em dirty when you change the filter, though. : ) > >> > >> Lynn Matteson > >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > >> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 791.3 hrs > >> Countdown to 1000 hrs~211 to go > >> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system > >> Rotec TBI-40 injection > >> Status: flying > >> do not archive > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Oct 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Ivan wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I purchased my Curtis valve with a 90 deg connector from Pete > at >>> Jabiru USA. It works well and makes oil changes a breeze. > Dont >>> even get my fingers dirty > > >>> > >>> Ivan > >>> Phoenix, AZ > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AZFlyer" > >>> To: > >>> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:52 AM > >>> Subject: JabiruEngine-List: SAF-AIR Oil Drain Sump Valve > >>> > >>> > > >>>> > >>>> List, > >>>> > >>>> Saf-Air sells a "push and turn to lock open" drain valve for > >>>> the Jab. 2200/3300 engine. However, it is my understanding > >>>> that Jab has moved the drain from the bottom to the side (as > is >>>> the case with my 3300). This makes the straight Saf-Air > valve >>>> useless. Has anybody found a 90 deg. nipple that makes > this >>>> valve a good way to go? ACS P/N 05-00986 > >>>> > >>>> ...or maybe another mfgr? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> -------- > >>>> Mike Miller @ millrml@aol.com > >>>> 601 XL, 3300, Dynon > >>>> > >>>> Remember, "the second mouse gets the cheese"! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Read this topic online here: > >>>> > >>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267357#267357 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message jabiruengine-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/JabiruEngine-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/jabiruengine-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/jabiruengine-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.