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1. 09:12 AM - Part II engine problem (Michael Hilderbrand)
2. 02:35 PM - Re: Part II engine problem (James, Clive R)
3. 02:57 PM - Re: Part II engine problem (Keith Pickford)
4. 04:32 PM - Re: Part II engine problem (Kayberg@aol.com)
5. 07:26 PM - Re: Firewall Attachment Plates Thickness? (Thruster87)
6. 07:59 PM - Re: Part II engine problem (Michael Hilderbrand)
7. 08:52 PM - Re: Part II engine problem (Keith Pickford)
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| Subject: | Part II engine problem |
Well, after calling Pete at jab- we pulled the head off and inspected eve
rything. The heads look fine to me. The valve springs function without indi
cating-any sticking.--Looking inside the cylinder-there-are a cou
ple areas of rough spots you can palpate with your finger tips.- We also
found out what was making the noise - so we think --the piston hitting th
e wall of the cylinder.- =0A=0AI did not have time to remove the cylinder
--did not have a tool to access this.- We-are going to the-field i
n-few hours to remove the cylinder-and make another call to Pete. =0A
=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CkSQR2HTek=0A=0A-Michael Hilderbrand
=0ADerby, Kansas=0AHttp://www.kansasflying.com
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| Subject: | Part II engine problem |
How can that be Doug?
________________________________
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: 27 October 2009 16:10
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Part II engine problem
Well, after calling Pete at jab we pulled the head off and inspected
everything. The heads look fine to me. The valve springs function
without indicating any sticking. Looking inside the cylinder there are
a couple areas of rough spots you can palpate with your finger tips. We
also found out what was making the noise - so we think - the piston
hitting the wall of the cylinder.
I did not have time to remove the cylinder - did not have a tool to
access this. We are going to the field in few hours to remove the
cylinder and make another call to Pete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CkSQR2HTek
Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com
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| Subject: | Re: Part II engine problem |
Hi Michael
-
I believe there were some engines that did not have sufficient piston to bo
re clearance and that produced some sort of noise. The engine I heard of wa
s a early hydraulic lifter one before the camshaft and lifters were altered
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Regards
Keith
--- On Wed, 28/10/09, Michael Hilderbrand <m_hilderbrand@sbcglobal.net> wro
te:
From: Michael Hilderbrand <m_hilderbrand@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Part II engine problem
Received: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 5:09 AM
Well, after calling Pete at jab- we pulled the head off and inspected eve
rything. The heads look fine to me. The valve springs function without indi
cating-any sticking.--Looking inside the cylinder-there-are a cou
ple areas of rough spots you can palpate with your finger tips.- We also
found out what was making the noise - so we think --the piston hitting th
e wall of the cylinder.-
-
I did not have time to remove the cylinder --did not have a tool to acces
s this.- We-are going to the-field in-few hours to remove the cylin
der-and make another call to Pete.
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CkSQR2HTek
-Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com
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| Subject: | Re: Part II engine problem |
assuming I am the Doug you are asking, I dont exactly know what is going
on.
I think the rings are sticking tho. Since the engine has so little time on
it, I wonder if it has been sitting for some time and the assembly lube has
stopped doing its job.
I was wrong about the valve sticking. The head looked perfect.
Doug Koenigsberg
In a message dated 10/27/2009 5:36:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
clive.james@uk.bp.com writes:
How can that be Doug?
____________________________________
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: 27 October 2009 16:10
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Part II engine problem
Well, after calling Pete at jab we pulled the head off and inspected
everything. The heads look fine to me. The valve springs function without
indicating any sticking. Looking inside the cylinder there are a couple areas
of rough spots you can palpate with your finger tips. We also found out
what was making the noise - so we think - the piston hitting the wall of the
cylinder.
I did not have time to remove the cylinder - did not have a tool to access
this. We are going to the field in few hours to remove the cylinder and
make another call to Pete.
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CkSQR2HTek_
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CkSQR2HTek)
Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall Attachment Plates Thickness? |
Just started to repair the engine mount and 7 & 8 should be 0.058" thick but again
they have used only 0.035". Jabiru USA must get on top of this shoddy workmanship
as this is the second engine mount that is not to specifications.The only
reason I could measure the wall thickness was do to it cracking and during
straightening breaking off completely. I now wonder how many under sized Jabiru
engine mounts are out there. Cheers T87
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269773#269773
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| Subject: | Re: Part II engine problem |
Hey, Doug.. or anyone-else with experience with-dis-assembly.- We spe
nt 5 hours-today trying to-get-the-# 6 cylinder off.--Using the
called out 7/16" Crow's foot did not work that well.- The nuts seemed li
ke they were WAY more than 30ft lbs. The bottom left nut would-NOT come o
ff.--The Crow's foot-ended up slipping off several times ROUNDING the
nut - and eventually rounding the Crow foot.-- Now I am in a BAD situa
tion!- I may end up going to a-welder tomorrow to have them make me a t
ool-with a 6 point socket-with the right geometry to get in there....
- VERY FRUSTRATING day!- =0A-Michael Hilderbrand=0ADerby, Kansas=0AHt
tp://www.kansasflying.com =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________
=0AFrom: "Kayberg@aol.com" <Kayberg@aol.com>=0ATo: jabiruengine-list@matron
ics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:24:47 PM=0ASubject: Re: JabiruE
ngine-List: Part II engine problem=0A=0Aassuming I am the Doug you are aski
ng,- I dont exactly-know what is going on.-- =0A=0AI think the ring
s are sticking tho. Since the engine has so little time on it, I wonder if
it has been sitting for some time and the assembly lube has stopped doing i
ts job.- =0A=0AI was wrong about the valve sticking.- The head looked p
erfect.=0A=0ADoug Koenigsberg=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIn a message dated 10/27/2009 5
:36:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clive.james@uk.bp.com writes:=0AHow can
that be Doug?=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: owner-jabi
ruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hilderbrand=0A>Sent: 27 October 2009 16:
10=0A>To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Pa
rt II engine problem=0A>=0A>=0A>Well, after calling Pete at jab- we pulle
d the head off and inspected everything. The heads look fine to me. The val
ve springs function without indicating-any sticking.--Looking inside
the cylinder-there-are a couple areas of rough spots you can palpate wi
th your finger tips.- We also found out what was making the noise - so we
think --the piston hitting the wall of the cylinder.- =0A>=0A>I did no
t have time to remove the cylinder --did not have a tool to access this.
- We-are going to the-field in-few hours to remove the cylinder-a
nd make another call to Pete. =0A>=0A>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CkS
QR2HTek=0A>=0A>-Michael Hilderbrand=0A>Derby, Kansas=0A>Http://www.kansas
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| Subject: | Re: Part II engine problem |
Hi Michael
-
I welded 2 sockets together - works fine -
-
Regards
keith
--- On Wed, 28/10/09, Michael Hilderbrand <m_hilderbrand@sbcglobal.net> wro
te:
From: Michael Hilderbrand <m_hilderbrand@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Part II engine problem
Received: Wednesday, 28 October, 2009, 3:58 PM
Hey, Doug.. or anyone-else with experience with-dis-assembly.- We spe
nt 5 hours-today trying to-get-the-# 6 cylinder off.--Using the
called out 7/16" Crow's foot did not work that well.- The nuts seemed li
ke they were WAY more than 30ft lbs. The bottom left nut would-NOT come o
ff.--The Crow's foot-ended up slipping off several times ROUNDING the
nut - and eventually rounding the Crow foot.-- Now I am in a BAD situa
tion!- I may end up going to a-welder tomorrow to have them make me a t
ool-with a 6 point socket-with the right geometry to get in there....
- VERY FRUSTRATING day!-
-Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com
From: "Kayberg@aol.com" <Kayberg@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 6:24:47 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Part II engine problem
assuming I am the Doug you are asking,- I dont exactly-know what is goi
ng on.--
-
I think the rings are sticking tho. Since the engine has so little time on
it, I wonder if it has been sitting for some time and the assembly lube has
stopped doing its job.-
-
I was wrong about the valve sticking.- The head looked perfect.
-
Doug Koenigsberg
-
-
-
-
In a message dated 10/27/2009 5:36:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clive.jam
es@uk.bp.com writes:
How can that be Doug?
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengi
ne-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: 27 October 2009 16:10
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Part II engine problem
Well, after calling Pete at jab- we pulled the head off and inspected eve
rything. The heads look fine to me. The valve springs function without indi
cating-any sticking.--Looking inside the cylinder-there-are a cou
ple areas of rough spots you can palpate with your finger tips.- We also
found out what was making the noise - so we think --the piston hitting th
e wall of the cylinder.-
-
I did not have time to remove the cylinder --did not have a tool to acces
s this.- We-are going to the-field in-few hours to remove the cylin
der-and make another call to Pete.
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CkSQR2HTek
-Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com
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