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1. 07:10 AM - cylinder nuts (Richard Girard)
2. 07:20 AM - Re: cylinder nuts (flylightning)
3. 09:59 AM - Re: cylinder nuts (Naftali Horowitz)
4. 10:51 AM - Re: Part II engine problem (wypaul)
5. 10:55 AM - Re: cylinder nuts (Richard Girard)
6. 11:49 AM - Re: cylinder nuts (flylightning)
7. 12:16 PM - Re: cylinder nuts (Richard Girard)
8. 01:24 PM - Re: Radio popping (Noelloveys)
9. 01:52 PM - Re: cylinder nuts (flylightning)
10. 01:59 PM - Re: cylinder nuts (Richard Girard)
11. 02:55 PM - Re: cylinder nuts (flylightning)
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Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone
else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured.
They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On
stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for
$16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so
it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating
corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the
torque wrench.
Rick Girard
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Also called a "Crows-foot" wrench if ordering from other places.
Nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone
else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured.
They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On
stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for
$16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so
it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating
corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the
torque wrench.
Rick Girard
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The correct size is 7/16"=2C not 13 mm.
From: info@flylightning.net
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Also called a =93Crows-foot=94 wrench if ordering from other places.
Nick
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengi
ne-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Wednesday=2C October 28=2C 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Mike=2C all=2C a little late to help with your engine=2C but it might save
someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pic
tured. They're available in metric sizes of 10=2C 13=2C 15=2C and 18 mm. Li
ke all Snap On stuff they're pricey=2C $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand
a 3300 lists for $16=2C500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap
on makes them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas f
or calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in l
ine with the torque wrench.
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: Part II engine problem |
Michael,
I posted the proper tool numbers for both Snap On and Proto a couple of days ago.
As you found out the crows foot is NOT the right tool.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: cylinder nuts |
Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot an
d
found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for
using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot
this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well.
The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the
heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct
reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free
country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in th
e
long run to do the job right the first time.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih@hotmail.com>wr
ote:
> The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: info@flylightning.net
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500
>
>
> Also called a =93Crows-foot=94 wrench if ordering from other places.
>
>
> Nick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Girard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
> *To:* jabiruengine-list
> *Subject:* JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
>
>
> Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save
> someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one
> pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Lik
e
> all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3
300
> lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on mak
es
> them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for
> calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in li
ne
> with the torque wrench.
>
>
> Rick Girard
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The question than begs what is the project?
nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and
found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for
using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot
this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well.
The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the
heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct
reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free
country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the
long run to do the job right the first time.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih@hotmail.com>
wrote:
The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
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From: info@flylightning.net
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Also called a "Crows-foot" wrench if ordering from other places.
Nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone
else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured.
They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On
stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for
$16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so
it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating
corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the
torque wrench.
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: cylinder nuts |
In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head
bolts.
Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, flylightning <info@flylightning.net> wrote
:
> The question than begs what is the project?
>
>
> nick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Girard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM
>
> *To:* jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
>
>
> Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot
> and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wron
g
> for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a cro
w
> foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out to
o
> well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque
> the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a corr
ect
> reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free
> country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in
the
> long run to do the job right the first time.
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: info@flylightning.net
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500
>
>
> Also called a =93Crows-foot=94 wrench if ordering from other places.
>
>
> Nick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Girard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
> *To:* jabiruengine-list
> *Subject:* JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
>
>
> Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save
> someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one
> pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Lik
e
> all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3
300
> lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on mak
es
> them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for
> calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in li
ne
> with the torque wrench.
>
>
> Rick Girard
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That would be a good idea too!
Keep the list informed as to what you find out.
Noel
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Radio popping
Noel, I appreciate all your help. I will check & double check all my
wires. I guess if all else fails Bob knockoll's (sp) just lives 20 or
so miles away... maybe he would look at it. :)
Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com
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From: Noelloveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 6:17:18 PM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Radio popping
Because your interference speeds up with rpm it suggests a few things.
First of all because aircraft and towers you are talking to do not hear
the interference it means the problem is not radio frequency (RF). This
is great as it eliminates checking all the coax wires to your antennas.
A few other possibilities exist.
One can be a shield on a shielded wire that is grounded at both ends.
Grounding the shield at both ends turns the shield from a shield to an
inductor. Sort of like a guard turning to the other side.
Another possibility is the p leads for your magnetos should be shielded
wires grounded at one end preferably the firewall end.
I=99m not sure if you are using an audio panel or not but if you
are, all the interconnect wires going between the audio panel and the
other items of your stack should be made using shielded wire grounded at
the audio panel end. That goes for things like the mic and phone lines
going to the jacks.
Once you have checked out those few items and made sure the case of your
radio is also securely grounded if you still get the interference try
resistor plugs or even resistor plug caps.
Keep us all informed on how things turn out for you.
One small piece of advice is there are literally hundreds of people
around who have a lot of experience, not to mention equipment who are
radio amateurs. It may not hurt to have one assist you in checking out
your installation.
I also recommend to everyone to draw a block diagram of your
installation as you do your check out include things in your
diagram such as wire colours or numbers and ground placements. Keep the
diagram so you can refer to it if you ever want to change your
installation or track down another problem.
Noel
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Radio popping
Noel,
Yes! It does increase with RPM. I was looking at my mag wires today
and noticed that I made a pigtail from the shield material in the wire
(side connected to engine) and grounded this to the firewall ground -
all my grounds connect eventually. The panel ground leads to the
firewall ground - which leads to the neg battery. I did not shield any
of the wires to or from my com radio - the instructions did not mention
it, anyways.. something to look at I guess.
Thanks!
Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, Kansas
Http://www.kansasflying.com
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From: Noelloveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:25:28 PM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Radio popping
Michael:
If you find the popping frequency increases with rpm then your problem
is most probably a bad ground in your audio section. Audio connecting
lines should only be shield grounded at the feed end never at
both ends. The grounds do however need to be very clean. You will
find, as I have, better than 90% of interference problems in aircraft
are caused by poor grounding somewhere. The trick is to figure out
where.
If you find the popping does not increase with throttle then the
possibility is a heavy capacitor of sufficient voltage across the DC
buss on your radios should cure it.
In the meantime the R582 engine ( you may have one) is a bit of an
oddball in that it is recommended to use both resistor caps (5K Ohm) and
5K Ohm plugs.
Noel
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Radio popping
Noel,
I could not appreciate if the popping changes rate with RPM during the
ground running operations. My attention was really focused on RPM, EGT,
and CHTs at the time (trying to fine-tune an Aerocarb for first flight
operation). At the time I was aggressively changing RPM but was on the
local frequency - traffic transmissions were too short in nature to
notice a change in popping. When no one is transmitting everything is
normal.
I will listen to ATIS continuously on Friday while running the engine
and report back.
Thanks!
Michael Hilderbrand
Derby, KS
www.kansasflying.com <http://www.kansasflying.com/>
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From: Noelloveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:48:06 AM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Radio popping
This is Thursday morning so I=99m taking a chanced you
haven=99t gotten any answers or even a fix yet.
First thing is, does the popping change rate with the rpm of the engine?
Noel
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Hilderbrand
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:20 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Radio popping
Hey guys,
I am doing some initial ground rounds with my Jab3300 engine and was
noticing a popping noise in the headsets - while receiving ONLY. The
popping noise is pretty bad. At first I thought is might have been the
other aircraft's radio (flying in the pattern), but after tuning to a
local ATIS I got the same popping sound. I am just trying to see if it
might be something obvious, something that one of you might have
experienced as well? It does not happen when the engine is not running.
I am thinking that maybe I should start out by buying resistor plugs?
I am NOT an electrical person at all... but I did try to wire per the
Aeroelectric manual.
Any thoughts?
Michael Hilderbrand
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Meant what aircraft are you building?
nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head
bolts.
Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, flylightning <info@flylightning.net> wrote:
The question than begs what is the project?
nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and
found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for
using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot
this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well.
The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the
heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct
reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free
country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the
long run to do the job right the first time.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih@hotmail.com>
wrote:
The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
_____
From: info@flylightning.net
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Also called a "Crows-foot" wrench if ordering from other places.
Nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone
else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured.
They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On
stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for
$16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so
it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating
corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the
torque wrench.
Rick Girard
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Oh, I have a Kolb Mk III that desperately wants a 2200. :-)
Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, flylightning <info@flylightning.net> wrote
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> Meant what aircraft are you building?
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> nick
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> ------------------------------
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> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Girard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:16 PM
>
> *To:* jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
>
>
> In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head
> bolts.
>
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, flylightning <info@flylightning.net>
> wrote:
>
> The question than begs what is the project?
>
>
> nick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Girard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM
>
>
> *To:* jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
>
>
> Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot
> and found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wron
g
> for using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a cro
w
> foot this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out to
o
> well. The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque
> the heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a corr
ect
> reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free
> country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in
the
> long run to do the job right the first time.
>
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: info@flylightning.net
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:17:07 -0500
>
>
> Also called a =93Crows-foot=94 wrench if ordering from other places.
>
>
> Nick
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Girard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
> *To:* jabiruengine-list
> *Subject:* JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
>
>
> Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save
> someone else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one
> pictured. They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Lik
e
> all Snap On stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3
300
> lists for $16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on mak
es
> them so it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for
> calculating corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in li
ne
> with the torque wrench.
>
>
> Rick Girard
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Ok, it's a good engine.
nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Oh, I have a Kolb Mk III that desperately wants a 2200. :-)
Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:52 PM, flylightning <info@flylightning.net> wrote:
Meant what aircraft are you building?
nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
In this case it's loosening and torqueing cylinder, or in my case, head
bolts.
Rick
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:47 PM, flylightning <info@flylightning.net> wrote:
The question than begs what is the project?
nick
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[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Nick, this is a crow foot wrench, I did a search for a box end crow foot and
found only one source, available only in a set and the drive was wrong for
using a torque wrench with them. If you go to Sears and ask for a crow foot
this is what you get, and as Mike experienced they don't work out too well.
The first picture I posted is the torque adapter I bought to torque the
heads on my Shovelhead Harley about 15 years ago. Always gives a correct
reading and never rounded a head bolt. Do what you wish, it's a free
country, but I buy tools as good as the project. Saves money and time in the
long run to do the job right the first time.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Naftali Horowitz <naftalih@hotmail.com>
wrote:
The correct size is 7/16", not 13 mm.
_____
From: info@flylightning.net
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Also called a "Crows-foot" wrench if ordering from other places.
Nick
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From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Girard
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: cylinder nuts
Mike, all, a little late to help with your engine, but it might save someone
else some grief. Snap On Tools has torque adapters like the one pictured.
They're available in metric sizes of 10, 13, 15, and 18 mm. Like all Snap On
stuff they're pricey, $30 for the 13mm. On the other hand a 3300 lists for
$16,500. Cheap when you consider what can go wrong. Snap on makes them so
it's 2" (50.8 mm) between centers and includes formulas for calculating
corrections in torque readings when the adapter is used in line with the
torque wrench.
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