---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/11/09: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:29 AM - Re: Bing Carby (Lynn Matteson) 2. 02:43 PM - Re: Bing Carby (Naftali Horowitz) 3. 04:54 PM - Re: Bing Carby (Lynn Matteson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:08 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby No increase that I can really attribute to the Electroair ignition, but I installed the ignition during an engine rebuild, so many things were different after I reinstalled the engine. The main reason for the ignition change was to get away from the (in my case) sloppy rotors, and otherwise antiquated distributor-based ignition system. (What modern engine uses distributors these days?) I also wanted to have a system that was capable of advancing the ignition under certain conditions, and retarding the ignition as well. I am currently using the Rotec TBI-40 fuel metering system (Throttle Body Injection), because I also wanted to be able to control the fuel mixture while in flight. Here again, I felt that something a bit more modern than the float-type carburetor was required (or in my case, desired). Some of the changes or decisions that I make are based on boredom...I just need to be doing something different than just flying the plane as it is. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 820.8 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~179 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Dec 11, 2009, at 2:22 AM, Naftali Horowitz wrote: > Did you get any RPM increase due to the Electroair ignition? > Is it with the Bing or injection? > Thanks, > Naftali > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net > > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby > > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:01:17 -0500 > > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > I usually see about 2840-2860. > > > > Lynn Matteson > > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 818.9 hrs > > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go > > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > > Rotec TBI-40 injection > > Status: flying (and learning) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Naftali Horowitz wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > What static WOT do you get with the 62x46" prop? > > > Thanks, > > > Naftali. > > > > > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net > > > > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby > > > > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0500 > > > > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not me. > > > > I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years, and in discussing this matter > with > > > the > > > > folks at Bing, they said there is no test for a bad > diaphragm, just > > > > hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or > cracks, > > > > continue to use it. > > > > And when you stop to think about it, what does two years really > > > mean? > > > > Two years of aging is one thing, two years at 200 hours per > year for > > > > one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for > another. > > > > That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that > > > could be > > > > done, rather than just arbitrarily change it. > > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > > > > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 818.9 hrs > > > > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go > > > > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > > > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > > > > Rotec TBI-40 injection > > > > Status: flying (and learning) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Deiterich wrote: > > > > > > > > > The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007) > > > > > states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two > > > > > years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this? > > > > > Chuck D. > > > > > =================================== _- > > > > > ========== _- > > > > > ====== > > > &g-==================== > > > >== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows LiveT Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. Learn > > > =================================== _- > > > =================================== _- > > > =============================> > > > > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsofts powerful SPAM protection._- > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:48 PM PST US From: Naftali Horowitz Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby Thanks Lynn for your thorough reply Appreciate it=2C Naftali. > From: lynnmatt@jps.net > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby > Date: Fri=2C 11 Dec 2009 06:26:23 -0500 > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > > > No increase that I can really attribute to the Electroair ignition=2C > but I installed the ignition during an engine rebuild=2C so many things > were different after I reinstalled the engine. The main reason for > the ignition change was to get away from the (in my case) sloppy > rotors=2C and otherwise antiquated distributor-based ignition system. > (What modern engine uses distributors these days?) I also wanted to > have a system that was capable of advancing the ignition under > certain conditions=2C and retarding the ignition as well. > > I am currently using the Rotec TBI-40 fuel metering system (Throttle > Body Injection)=2C because I also wanted to be able to control the fuel > mixture while in flight. Here again=2C I felt that something a bit more > modern than the float-type carburetor was required (or in my case=2C > desired). > > Some of the changes or decisions that I make are based on boredom...I > just need to be doing something different than just flying the plane > as it is. : ) > > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger > Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 820.8 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~179 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying (and learning) > > > > > > > On Dec 11=2C 2009=2C at 2:22 AM=2C Naftali Horowitz wrote: > > > Did you get any RPM increase due to the Electroair ignition? > > Is it with the Bing or injection? > > Thanks=2C > > Naftali > > > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net > > > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby > > > Date: Thu=2C 3 Dec 2009 18:01:17 -0500 > > > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > I usually see about 2840-2860. > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > > Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger > > > Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 818.9 hrs > > > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go > > > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > > > Rotec TBI-40 injection > > > Status: flying (and learning) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 3=2C 2009=2C at 10:43 AM=2C Naftali Horowitz wrote: > > > > > > > Hi=2C > > > > What static WOT do you get with the 62x46" prop? > > > > Thanks=2C > > > > Naftali. > > > > > > > > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net > > > > > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby > > > > > Date: Wed=2C 2 Dec 2009 12:45:00 -0500 > > > > > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not me. > > > > > I had my Bing for 3-1/2 years=2C and in discussing this matter > > with > > > > the > > > > > folks at Bing=2C they said there is no test for a bad > > diaphragm=2C just > > > > > hold it up to the light and if you can see no pinholes or > > cracks=2C > > > > > continue to use it. > > > > > And when you stop to think about it=2C what does two years really > > > > mean? > > > > > Two years of aging is one thing=2C two years at 200 hours per > > year for > > > > > one flier is not like two years of 50 hours per year for > > another. > > > > > That's why I asked the Bing folks if there was any test that > > > > could be > > > > > done=2C rather than just arbitrarily change it. > > > > > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > > > > Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger > > > > > Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 818.9 hrs > > > > > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go > > > > > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > > > > > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > > > > > Rotec TBI-40 injection > > > > > Status: flying (and learning) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 2=2C 2009=2C at 12:02 PM=2C Chuck Deiterich wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The "Bing Carburetors Aircraft Tuning and Parts Manual" (2007) > > > > > > states that the diaphragm in carb should be replaced every two > > > > > > years regardless of hours. Has anybody done this? > > > > > > Chuck D. > > > > > > ===================== ============== _- > > > > > > ========== _- > > > > > > ====== > > > > &g-==================== > > > > >== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows LiveT Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. Learn > > > > ====================== ============= _- > > > > ====================== ============= _- > > > > ====================== =======> > > > > > > > > > > ======================= > > ======================= > > ======================= =========== > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:32 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Bing Carby You're very welcome. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 820.8 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~179 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying (and learning) On Dec 11, 2009, at 5:41 PM, Naftali Horowitz wrote: > Thanks Lynn for your thorough reply > Appreciate it, > Naftali. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message jabiruengine-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/JabiruEngine-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/jabiruengine-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/jabiruengine-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.