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| Subject: | Jab 2200 Solid lifter in Avid Heavy Hauler |
Actually that serial number produces 85 hp. Al 2200's since #1034 when the
combustion chamber mod was made are rated at 85 hp.
Pete
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ellery
Batchelder Jr
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Jab 2200 Solid lifter in Avid Heavy Hauler
That is also the older version of the 2200 Jabiru engine with solid lifters
and only making 80 Hp
verses the new version 2200 with Hydrolic lifters making 85 Hp
just what little I know about them having flown a couple of the newer 2200
versions
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: kayberg@aol.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Jab 2200 Solid lifter in Avid Heavy Hauler
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From: moosepileit <rklarich@msn.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:58 pm
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Jab 2200 Solid lifter in Avid Heavy Hauler
List,
There is an Avid 2005 cert'd Heavy Hauler on Barnstormers. The engine is a
Jab
2200 of unknown S/N and S/B compliance w/ 125 hours. The cruise at 4GPH is
only
65 MPH, looks like a 2 blade warp drive prop.
This seems a good 10 MPH slow and no where near the cruise step.
The inlets look like the smaller un modded size, though basic question about
Oil
Temp and CHT got a "no problems" response.
At 16K it seems like a good deal- has a panel radio, Narco Trans/Mode C,
etc- I
know at 6'1 and 230# I'm a tight squeeze- I just fit in a Kitfox IV w/ some
stick/leg bumping, but the sig. other is a tiny 5'4 and 115#.
I've read all the Jabiru S/Bs, the AD note, etc. It has a Bing Carb, but
don't
know if it's 32 or 40MM- the Rotec TBI looks like the thing to swap to down
the
road. I don't mind a new prop test phase if there is a better one out there-
would like to goto ELSA, so would like to keep it fixed pitch.
Don't want to spend 6 grand and have to tear down the motor to update it,
but
I'd take the courses to do the maint. on it as a LSA.
Suggestions, hints, gotchas?
Thanks in advance
Several Problems
1) You can do maintenance now, but will never be able to do condition
inspections unless you become an A&P. To do inspections on it with the
two-day course, it had to be converted to an ELSA a couple years ago. then
you could do inspections.
2) A two blade warp drive is not a good prop for this plane. Better a 62-40
Sensinich or even a 62-38
3) Not likely a problem with the engine UNLESS it has been
overheated....which is a possiblity. The key is not the inlets but rather if
there is a cowling Lip on the exit
4) Stick with the Bing...no real advantage has been shown by any "regular
people" using the TBI
5) Small cabin is a problem with the AVID.....
6) Key to engine is a differential leakdown cylinder test. Any low cyls
indicate possible overheating problems.
Price is a little low if plane is well built, which indicates
dissatisfaction with the engine.
Dont buy without flying
Doug Koenigsberg
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| Subject: | Re: Jab 2200 Solid lifter in Avid Heavy Hauler |
Can't say I've ever seen this discussed...
Scouring issues of JabaChat prior to the April 2004 JABIRU 2200 ENGINE POWER RATINGS
UPDATED 'official notice', reveals numerous excerpts regarding design improvements
said to affect hp from the early 80hp engines. For example, larger
40mm carby from s/n 699 on, extra finning for cooler CHT used from s/n 710 on,
new oil sump from s/n 729 on, and longer 107mm cylinders from s/n 832 on.
There is another interesting excerpt taken from JabaChat info published around
the time my solid lifter engine (s/n 901) was manufactured which stated the 2200
engine made 83hp on the dyno, so perhaps that indicates most accurately the
hp of my engines particular configuration. In any event, I came away from that
learning session with the impression there are a handful of engines that fall
in between the 'official' 80hp or 85hp ratings.
Is it possible the current head and combustion chamber actually account for only
about 2hp of the 5hp increase?
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