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1. 08:45 AM - Replacement Oil Cooler (Don McIntosh)
2. 09:56 AM - Re: Replacement Oil Cooler (flylightning)
3. 09:58 AM - Re: Replacement Oil Cooler (flylightning)
4. 10:58 AM - Re: Replacement Oil Cooler (Lynn Matteson)
5. 12:18 PM - Re: Starting Problem (ces308)
6. 12:49 PM - Re: Starting Problem (ces308)
7. 01:44 PM - Re: Starting Problem (wypaul)
8. 03:58 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problem (flylightning)
9. 03:59 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problem (Pete Krotje)
10. 03:59 PM - Re: Replacement Oil Cooler (Pete Krotje)
11. 04:01 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problem (Pete Krotje)
12. 04:10 PM - Re: Starting Problem (ces308)
13. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Starting Problem (Givan, Max E (AS))
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| Subject: | Replacement Oil Cooler |
I got my plane in the air here just about 2 months ago and went to change the oil
the first time this weekend. I was a little disappointed that the cooling duct
as received with the engine has too small an area to get ANY of the equivalent
oil filters in place. Early on I had noticed a small wear spot on the end
of the Ryco filter and I put a small piece of tape in there to give some wear
resistance. The issue is that all of the replacement filters are about 1/16"
taller (or longer) than the original Ryco. Some of the filters are also about
1/8" bigger in diameter in addition to being just a little longer. This will mean
rebuilding the front lower section of the cooling duct, of course after it
has been all finished, painted and flying season is upon us. :( I tried the
NAPA 1394, Pennzoil, Wicks, Fram, Bosch equivalentsto no avail.
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Don McIntosh
Kitfox Series 7 under construction
Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Replacement Oil Cooler |
Install the oil filter. Trim the air-duct as needed for clearance. Put some
cardboard and tape over the oil filter to give clearance and than re-glass
the airduct. Remove it all when it dries and clean up the edges. My guess is
the air-duct was fitted to close or low. No big deal easy fix.
Nick
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From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
McIntosh
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:45 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Replacement Oil Cooler
<don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
I got my plane in the air here just about 2 months ago and went to change
the oil the first time this weekend. I was a little disappointed that the
cooling duct as received with the engine has too small an area to get ANY of
the equivalent oil filters in place. Early on I had noticed a small wear
spot on the end of the Ryco filter and I put a small piece of tape in there
to give some wear resistance. The issue is that all of the replacement
filters are about 1/16" taller (or longer) than the original Ryco. Some of
the filters are also about 1/8" bigger in diameter in addition to being just
a little longer. This will mean rebuilding the front lower section of the
cooling duct, of course after it has been all finished, painted and flying
season is upon us. :( I tried the NAPA 1394, Pennzoil, Wicks, Fram, Bosch
equivalentsto no avail.
--------
Don McIntosh
Kitfox Series 7 under construction
Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Replacement Oil Cooler |
Install the oil filter. Trim the air-duct as needed for clearance. Put some
cardboard and tape over the oil filter to give clearance and than re-glass
the airduct. Remove it all when it dries and clean up the edges. My guess is
the air-duct was fitted to close or low. No big deal easy fix.
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
McIntosh
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:45 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Replacement Oil Cooler
<don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
I got my plane in the air here just about 2 months ago and went to change
the oil the first time this weekend. I was a little disappointed that the
cooling duct as received with the engine has too small an area to get ANY of
the equivalent oil filters in place. Early on I had noticed a small wear
spot on the end of the Ryco filter and I put a small piece of tape in there
to give some wear resistance. The issue is that all of the replacement
filters are about 1/16" taller (or longer) than the original Ryco. Some of
the filters are also about 1/8" bigger in diameter in addition to being just
a little longer. This will mean rebuilding the front lower section of the
cooling duct, of course after it has been all finished, painted and flying
season is upon us. :( I tried the NAPA 1394, Pennzoil, Wicks, Fram, Bosch
equivalentsto no avail.
--------
Don McIntosh
Kitfox Series 7 under construction
Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: Replacement Oil Cooler |
Don-
I just measured a Baldwin B33, and it showed 3.013" in height, if
that's any help.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 886.2 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
Countdown to 1000 hrs~114 to go(123 days to go)
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Don McIntosh wrote:
> <don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
>
> I got my plane in the air here just about 2 months ago and went to
> change the oil the first time this weekend. I was a little
> disappointed that the cooling duct as received with the engine has
> too small an area to get ANY of the equivalent oil filters in
> place. Early on I had noticed a small wear spot on the end of the
> Ryco filter and I put a small piece of tape in there to give some
> wear resistance. The issue is that all of the replacement filters
> are about 1/16" taller (or longer) than the original Ryco. Some of
> the filters are also about 1/8" bigger in diameter in addition to
> being just a little longer. This will mean rebuilding the front
> lower section of the cooling duct, of course after it has been all
> finished, painted and flying season is upon us. :( I tried the
> NAPA 1394, Pennzoil, Wicks, Fram, Bosch equivalentsto no avail.
>
> --------
> Don McIntosh
> Kitfox Series 7 under construction
> Jabiru 3300
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291557#291557
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
Help !
I think I found the problem...it's the starter...it looks like the front bearing
was just touching the edge of the hole it goes into and now doesn't fit in there
at all...there's a good 1/4 in of play at the end of the armature and is
going against the field...How can I get a hold of Jabiru?? The west coast number
was disconnected...
thanks,
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
well...I talked to Chris at Jabiru in Tenn and unless I want to pay $480.00 for
a new started I'm screwed...Basically he said see if you can cobble the bearing
back in the hole....
not the answer I was looking for...back to the hangar.....
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
Chris,
Not sure what number you tried but the number for Jabiru Pacific is 559-431-1701.
Jim will help you out.
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Paul Spackman
Q-2 Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
Chris,
Is this the oilite bronze bushing in the nose of the starter cone?
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ces308
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Starting Problem
well...I talked to Chris at Jabiru in Tenn and unless I want to pay $480.00
for a new started I'm screwed...Basically he said see if you can cobble the
bearing back in the hole....
not the answer I was looking for...back to the hangar.....
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
Jabiru Pacific is open for business and the phone works fine. I just called
him. So before passing on inaccurate info (and potentially damaging info)
you should check the number you dialed to make sure it is 559-431-1701
Pete
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From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ces308
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:18 PM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Starting Problem
Help !
I think I found the problem...it's the starter...it looks like the front
bearing was just touching the edge of the hole it goes into and now doesn't
fit in there at all...there's a good 1/4 in of play at the end of the
armature and is going against the field...How can I get a hold of Jabiru??
The west coast number was disconnected...
thanks,
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Replacement Oil Cooler |
NAPA Gold 1394, Fram Ph4967, Baldwin B33 all fit if airducts are installed
correctly. It is possible to install ducts too far down and create some
interference. You might first try repositioning your ducts to fit
correctly. If you cowl design requires the ducts to be out of position then
you will have to modify the ducts to fit.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
McIntosh
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:45 AM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Replacement Oil Cooler
<don@contractorsnorthwest.com>
I got my plane in the air here just about 2 months ago and went to change
the oil the first time this weekend. I was a little disappointed that the
cooling duct as received with the engine has too small an area to get ANY of
the equivalent oil filters in place. Early on I had noticed a small wear
spot on the end of the Ryco filter and I put a small piece of tape in there
to give some wear resistance. The issue is that all of the replacement
filters are about 1/16" taller (or longer) than the original Ryco. Some of
the filters are also about 1/8" bigger in diameter in addition to being just
a little longer. This will mean rebuilding the front lower section of the
cooling duct, of course after it has been all finished, painted and flying
season is upon us. :( I tried the NAPA 1394, Pennzoil, Wicks, Fram, Bosch
equivalentsto no avail.
--------
Don McIntosh
Kitfox Series 7 under construction
Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
You might try taking the starter to an automotive electrical rebuild shop.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ces308
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Starting Problem
well...I talked to Chris at Jabiru in Tenn and unless I want to pay $480.00
for a new started I'm screwed...Basically he said see if you can cobble the
bearing back in the hole....
not the answer I was looking for...back to the hangar.....
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
Thank you Paul...
I took the starter apart and found that the front bearing came out of where it
was supposed to be .I have to get the pinion gear off them press the bearing
back into it's spot...then punch the edges so it won't come out again. Hope to
be back in the air tomorrow !
chris ambrose
M3X/A-2200 jab 106 hrs
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Starting Problem |
But do NOT tell them is off of an airplane. Most shops wont touch
airplane repairs due to concern over legal liability
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Krotje
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Starting Problem
<pete@usjabiru.com>
You might try taking the starter to an automotive electrical rebuild
shop.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ces308
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Starting Problem
well...I talked to Chris at Jabiru in Tenn and unless I want to pay
$480.00
for a new started I'm screwed...Basically he said see if you can cobble
the
bearing back in the hole....
not the answer I was looking for...back to the hangar.....
chris ambrose
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