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Fri 04/23/10


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     1. 02:34 PM - Won't run without choke (Alan Pinnick)
     2. 04:23 PM - Re: Excellent treatise on LOP operation (jetboy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:34:46 PM PST US
    From: "Alan Pinnick" <ajpinnick@comcast.net>
    Subject: Won't run without choke
    I just started up my new 2200A engine (S/N 1798, solid lifters) this morning, and it will not run without the choke on. It starts fine, runs smooth, and I can even vary the rpm by moving the throttle. But as soon as a move the choke in, it cuts right out. I installed the black floats, and made sure they were adjusted properly. I've reviewed JSB 018-2, and drilled out the idle circuit inlet to .063". The idle jet is clear. I've tried adjusting the idle mixture screw to no avail. All of the idle circuit passages are clear. There must be something simple that I am missing. Any ideas??? Alan Pinnick Pulsar XP #473


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    Time: 04:23:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Excellent treatise on LOP operation
    From: "jetboy" <sanson.r@xtra.co.nz>
    The fact that Jabiru start leaning below around 70% power does not imply they approve of running the engine LOP at any time. The econony jetting never operates in the LOP zone, even the first version which was savagely lean in some circumstances, did not operate on the lean side of peak EGT at any throttle setting. (Arguably it would have been better to have operated LOP than in the "just ROP" danger zone that the initial economy kit put it) Jabiru since revised the jetting about 4 times to get it safe, according to the JSB. I'm just making the point here that LOP means lean of the peak EGT that occurs while manually leaning the mixture, at the current operating power setting. LOP operation can be confirmed by applying carb heat and observing an increase of EGT, rather than the usual decrease, that occurs when the mixture is at or rich of peak EGT. its good to see the Aerocarb and Rotec injector carbs being used but won't take the risk or expense with mine as I've already replaced 4 exhaust valves at 310 hrs and feel a top overhaul is going to occur in a similar time. I would consider doing it on a new engine once the track record of those engines proven, but mine's half cut already and I want it reliable for the remainder, theres enough other issues to be concerned about. Ralph [As you noted, different engine manufacturers specify different % power over which LOP is not good for the engine. Jabiru apparently uses 70% power since the jet needle they designed for the Bing 94 begins getting much richer at approximately that power setting, assuming the prop used is within the rpm specs. they recommend.[/quote] -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=295489#295489




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