---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/21/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (Lynn Matteson) 2. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (Mark Hubelbank) 3. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (Pete Krotje) 4. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (Lynn Matteson) 5. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (Martin Hone) 6. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (Don Honabach) 7. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (BobsV35B@aol.com) 8. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 (Lynn Matteson) 9. 07:10 PM - O Ring Grease (Ian Heritch) 10. 11:03 PM - Re: O Ring Grease (Keith Pickford) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:57 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 I've been using the Baldwin B33 on my 2200 for about 700-800 hours now....about 3 years, changing every 25 hours, right along with the oil. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm) Status: flying...1089 hrs (since 3-27-2006) On Mar 20, 2011, at 10:39 PM, MHerder wrote: > > > Anybody running a K & N Oil filter? > > I think HP1003 is the correct cross reference based off of a search > on the K & N site using the Framp PH4967 as the basis. I'm not > interested in exploring new ground here, but I'm willing to pay a > few more bucks if there is actually better oil flow, possibly > better filtration, pressure, cooling etc. > > > NAPA Gold 1394, Fram Ph4967, Baldwin B33 all fit according to a > post by Pete Krojete 3/24/10. > > -------- > Zodiac 601 HD > Jabiru 3300 > Wood Sensinich 64x47 > Finally Flying > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334560#334560 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:51 AM PST US From: Mark Hubelbank Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 Micheal, I checked once and the length of the K&N filter would not clear the Jabiru supplied air plenum. If you have a different type of air management for cylinder cooling, it might work and is probably the highest quality filter available. Mark Hubelbank Ch601XL-B Jabiru 3300 Sensenich adj prop Rotec TBI-40-3 99 Hours On 03/20/2011 10:39 PM, MHerder wrote: > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "MHerder" > > Anybody running a K& N Oil filter? > > I think HP1003 is the correct cross reference based off of a search on the K& N site using the Framp PH4967 as the basis. I'm not interested in exploring new ground here, but I'm willing to pay a few more bucks if there is actually better oil flow, possibly better filtration, pressure, cooling etc. > > > NAPA Gold 1394, Fram Ph4967, Baldwin B33 all fit according to a post by Pete Krojete 3/24/10. > > -------- > Zodiac 601 HD > Jabiru 3300 > Wood Sensinich 64x47 > Finally Flying > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334560#334560 > > -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:51 AM PST US From: "Pete Krotje" Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 The K&N has a nut welded on the top of the filter so you can safety wire it in place. This was an attractive enough feature to convince us to buy a dozen several years ago. The down side is that there is barely enough clearance (because of the nut) to get it on over the oil cooler adapter and every one we tried leaked at the weld that held the nut onto the filter can. We gave up on them. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Hubelbank Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 7:47 AM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 Micheal, I checked once and the length of the K&N filter would not clear the Jabiru supplied air plenum. If you have a different type of air management for cylinder cooling, it might work and is probably the highest quality filter available. Mark Hubelbank Ch601XL-B Jabiru 3300 Sensenich adj prop Rotec TBI-40-3 99 Hours On 03/20/2011 10:39 PM, MHerder wrote: > --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "MHerder" > > Anybody running a K& N Oil filter? > > I think HP1003 is the correct cross reference based off of a search on the K& N site using the Framp PH4967 as the basis. I'm not interested in exploring new ground here, but I'm willing to pay a few more bucks if there is actually better oil flow, possibly better filtration, pressure, cooling etc. > > > NAPA Gold 1394, Fram Ph4967, Baldwin B33 all fit according to a post by Pete Krojete 3/24/10. > > -------- > Zodiac 601 HD > Jabiru 3300 > Wood Sensinich 64x47 > Finally Flying > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=334560#334560 > > -- Mark Hubelbank NorthEast Monitoring 2 Clock Tower Place Suite 555 Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA mhubel@nemon.com 978-443-3955 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:40 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 I JB Welded a cloverleaf-shaped flat plate onto the end of one of my first filters, so I could safety-wire the filter, then gave up on the idea because subsequent filters showed there was no need for safetying. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm) Status: flying...1089 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Temp. grounded...building new intake manifold. On Mar 21, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Pete Krotje wrote: > > > The K&N has a nut welded on the top of the filter so you can safety > wire it > in place. This was an attractive enough feature to convince us to > buy a > dozen several years ago. The down side is that there is barely enough > clearance (because of the nut) to get it on over the oil cooler > adapter and > every one we tried leaked at the weld that held the nut onto the > filter can. > > We gave up on them. > > Pete ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:20 PM PST US Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 From: Martin Hone I agree, I have never had a spin-on filter come loose, but I use a hose clamp around the filter body and safety wire this to somewhere on the engine. I used this method for many years road-racing motorcycles, and it is an acceptable safetying method in that arena. Martin On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > I JB Welded a cloverleaf-shaped flat plate onto the end of one of my first > filters, so I could safety-wire the filter, then gave up on the idea because > subsequent filters showed there was no need for safetying. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm) > Status: flying...1089 hrs (since 3-27-2006) > Temp. grounded...building new intake manifold. > > > On Mar 21, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Pete Krotje wrote: > >> > >> >> The K&N has a nut welded on the top of the filter so you can safety wire >> it >> in place. This was an attractive enough feature to convince us to buy a >> dozen several years ago. The down side is that there is barely enough >> clearance (because of the nut) to get it on over the oil cooler adapter >> and >> every one we tried leaked at the weld that held the nut onto the filter >> can. >> >> We gave up on them. >> >> Pete >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:19 PM PST US From: Don Honabach Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 I haven't had any problems with mine, but I love the KIS nature of this sol ution - definitely going to look at adding during my next oil change/schedu led maintenance. Thanks, Don From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengi ne-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Martin Hone Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 I agree, I have never had a spin-on filter come loose, but I use a hose cla mp around the filter body and safety wire this to somewhere on the engine. I used this method for many years road-racing motorcycles, and it is an acc eptable safetying method in that arena. Martin On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Lynn Matteson > wrote: ilto:lynnmatt@jps.net>> I JB Welded a cloverleaf-shaped flat plate onto the end of one of my first filters, so I could safety-wire the filter, then gave up on the idea becaus e subsequent filters showed there was no need for safetying. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm) Status: flying...1089 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Temp. grounded...building new intake manifold. On Mar 21, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Pete Krotje wrote: ailto:pete@usjabiru.com>> The K&N has a nut welded on the top of the filter so you can safety wire it in place. This was an attractive enough feature to convince us to buy a dozen several years ago. The down side is that there is barely enough clearance (because of the nut) to get it on over the oil cooler adapter and every one we tried leaked at the weld that held the nut onto the filter can .. We gave up on them. Pete -List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEngine-Li st http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:55 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 Good Afternoon Don, For what it is worth, the same procedure is blessed by the FAA via an STC for the Stearman held by Aircraft Repair of Cleveland, Mississippi. Happy Skies, Old Bob In a message dated 3/21/2011 4:20:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, don.honabach@pcperfect.com writes: I haven=99t had any problems with mine, but I love the KIS nature of this solution =93 definitely going to look at adding during my next oil change/scheduled maintenance. Thanks, Don From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Martin Hone Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 1:40 PM Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Re: Replacement Oil Filters for 3300 I agree, I have never had a spin-on filter come loose, but I use a hose clamp around the filter body and safety wire this to somewhere on the eng ine. I used this method for many years road-racing motorcycles, and it is an acceptable safetying method in that arena. Martin On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Lynn Matteson <_lynnmatt@jps.net_ (mailto:lynnmatt@jps.net) > wrote: --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <_lynnmatt@jps.net _ (mailto:lynnmatt@jps.net) > I JB Welded a cloverleaf-shaped flat plate onto the end of one of my firs t filters, so I could safety-wire the filter, then gave up on the idea because subsequent filters showed there was no need for safetying. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm) Status: flying...1089 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Temp. grounded...building new intake manifold. On Mar 21, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Pete Krotje wrote: <_pete@usjabiru.com_ (mailto:pete@usjabiru.com) > The K&N has a nut welded on the top of the filter so you can safety wire it in place. This was an attractive enough feature to convince us to buy a dozen several years ago. The down side is that there is barely enough clearance (because of the nut) to get it on over the oil cooler adapter and every one we tried leaked at the weld that held the nut onto the filter can. We gave up on them. 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Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 35mm) Status: flying...1089 hrs (since 3-27-2006) Temp. grounded...building new intake manifold. On Mar 21, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Martin Hone wrote: > I agree, I have never had a spin-on filter come loose, but I use a > hose clamp around the filter body and safety wire this to somewhere > on the engine. I used this method for many years road-racing > motorcycles, and it is an acceptable safetying method in that arena. > > Martin > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Lynn Matteson > wrote: > > > I JB Welded a cloverleaf-shaped flat plate onto the end of one of > my first filters, so I could safety-wire the filter, then gave up > on the idea because subsequent filters showed there was no need for > safetying. > > Lynn Matteson ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:58 PM PST US Subject: JabiruEngine-List: O Ring Grease From: Ian Heritch Good Evening Folks, On page 73 of the 3300 Maintenance Manual, under the section, Head Fitting, it states that all O Rings be greased. Any special grease, or will wheel bearing grease suffice? Thanks, Ian Heritch Sonex Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:29 PM PST US From: Keith Pickford Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: O Ring Grease Have a look at http://www.jabiru.net.au/ under Manuals "overhaul Manual" pa ge 22 tells what to use where. Regards Keith --- On Tue, 22/3/11, Ian Heritch wrote: From: Ian Heritch Subject: JabiruEngine-List: O Ring Grease Good Evening Folks, =0AOn page 73 of the 3300 Maintenance Manual, under the section, Head Fitti ng, it states that all O Rings be greased. -Any special grease, or will w heel bearing grease suffice? =0A Thanks, =0A Ian Heritch =0ASonex Jabiru 3300=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message jabiruengine-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/JabiruEngine-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/jabiruengine-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/jabiruengine-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.