---------------------------------------------------------- JabiruEngine-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/21/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:51 AM - Re: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update (Lynn Matteson) 2. 04:44 AM - Re: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update (Keith Pickford) 3. 12:00 PM - Re: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update (James, Clive R) 4. 12:17 PM - Re: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update (Lynn Matteson) 5. 02:12 PM - Re: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update (Martin Hone) 6. 04:01 PM - Re: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update (Keith Pickford) 7. 04:17 PM - Re: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update (Martin Hone) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:12 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update Sounds like the old belt AND suspenders, eh? Yes, my engine also had the o-rings and goop applied. And it's probably little wonder that the tube-to-manifold seal is a bit tricky to seal....those stainless steel intake tubes can't really be all that accurately bent, I wouldn't think. Mine was sealed with something that was similar to RTV. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Temporarily w/Sensenich 55.5 x 46 prop while Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) is in for upgrade Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1121 hrs (since 3-27-2006) On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Martin Hone wrote: > Lynn, > > the 3300 has a similar arrangement for the plenum, except the bolt > that holds the flow divider goes all the way through into the > crankcase. Given that the intake tubes are sealed with O-rings > where they exit the plenum, you would have to wonder why there is > sealing compound around the outside as well. There was on mine and > it had gone hard and cracked. Doesn't seem to be a lot of rhyme or > reason for some of this stuff. Maybe just that a whole lot of > different people have tried solving issues at the factory level. > > Martin > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:10 AM PST US From: Keith Pickford Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update The Black Gook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff --- On Tue, 21/6/11, Lynn Matteson wrote: From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update Sounds like the old belt AND suspenders, eh? Yes, my engine also had the o- rings and goop applied. And it's probably little wonder that the tube-to-ma nifold seal is a bit tricky to seal....those stainless steel intake tubes c an't really be all that accurately bent, I wouldn't think. Mine was sealed with something that was similar to RTV. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Temporarily w/Sensenich 55.5 x 46 prop while Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) is in for upgrade Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1121 hrs (since 3-27-200 6) On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Martin Hone wrote: > Lynn, > >- the 3300 has a similar arrangement for the plenum, except the bolt tha t holds the flow divider goes all the way through into the crankcase.- Gi ven that the intake tubes are sealed with O-rings where they exit the plenu m, you would have to wonder why there is sealing compound around the outsid e as well.- There was on mine and it had gone hard and cracked.- Doesn' t seem to be a lot of rhyme or reason for some of this stuff.- Maybe just that a whole lot of different people have tried solving issues at the fact ory level. > > Martin > le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:39 PM PST US Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update From: "James, Clive R" Do you suppose the goop is just used to help slip the pipes in? Vaseline would be as good but maybe the extra stiction is a good thing. ________________________________ From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Keith Pickford Sent: Tue 21/06/2011 12:39 Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update The Black Gook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff --- On Tue, 21/6/11, Lynn Matteson wrote: From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, 21, June, 2011, 10:47 PM Sounds like the old belt AND suspenders, eh? Yes, my engine also had the o-rings and goop applied. And it's probably little wonder that the tube-to-manifold seal is a bit tricky to seal....those stainless steel intake tubes can't really be all that accurately bent, I wouldn't think. Mine was sealed with something that was similar to RTV. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Temporarily w/Sensenich 55.5 x 46 prop while Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) is in for upgrade Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1121 hrs (since 3-27-2006) On Jun 20, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Martin Hone wrote: > Lynn, > > the 3300 has a similar arrangement for the plenum, except the bolt that holds the flow divider goes all the way through into the crankcase. Given that the intake tubes are sealed with O-rings where they exit the plenum, you would have to wonder why there is sealing compound around the outside as well. There was on mine and it had gone hard and cracked. Doesn't seem to be a lot of rhyme or reason for some of this stuff. Maybe just that a whole lot of different people have tried solving issues at the factory level. > >vigator?JabiruEngine-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navig========= =============== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:24 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update Stiction? Damn, I got's ta get me one of them dik-shun-aries, Clive. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062 Temporarily w/Sensenich 55.5 x 46 prop while Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) is in for upgrade Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1121 hrs (since 3-27-2006) do not archive On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:52 PM, James, Clive R wrote: > Do you suppose the goop is just used to help slip the pipes in? > Vaseline would be as good but maybe the extra stiction is a good > thing. > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of > Keith Pickford > Sent: Tue 21/06/2011 12:39 > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update > > > The Black Gook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:12:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update From: Martin Hone Haha, I'm still getting over Keith's comment about it being 'The Black Gook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff ' Black Gook ? Martin On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > > Stiction? Damn, I got's ta get me one of them dik-shun-aries, Clive. : ) > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Temporarily w/Sensenich 55.5 x 46 prop while > Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) is in for upgrade > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1121 hrs (since > 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:52 PM, James, Clive R wrote: > > Do you suppose the goop is just used to help slip the pipes in? Vaseline >> would be as good but maybe the extra stiction is a good thing. >> >> ______________________________**__ >> >> From: owner-jabiruengine-list-**server@matronics.comon behalf of Keith Pickford >> Sent: Tue 21/06/2011 12:39 >> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.**com >> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update >> >> >> The Black Gook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:23 PM PST US From: Keith Pickford Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update I visited the Jabiru factory at Bundaberg - Great bunch there - all very he lpful - learnt a lot about the different sealers used in the engine. The bl ack "Gook" is worth putting on the inlet tubes as any leaks there will lean out the mixture. Cheers Keith --- On Wed, 22/6/11, Martin Hone wrote: From: Martin Hone Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update Haha, -I'm still getting over Keith's comment about it being 'The Black G ook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff ' - - Black Gook ? Martin On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Lynn Matteson wrote: > =0A=0A =0AStiction? Damn, I got's ta get me one of them dik-shun-aries, Clive. : ) =0A =0ALynn Matteson =0AKitfox IV Speedster, taildragger =0AJabiru 2200, #2062 =0ATemporarily w/Sensenich 55.5 x 46 prop while =0APrince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) is in for upgrade =0AElectroair direct-fire ignition system =0ARotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) =0AStatus: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1121 hrs (since 3-27- 2006) =0Ado not archive =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0AOn Jun 21, 2011, at 2:52 PM, James, Clive R wrote: =0A =0A=0ADo you suppose the goop is just used to help slip the pipes in? Vasel ine would be as good but maybe the extra stiction is a good thing. =0A =0A________________________________ =0A =0AFrom: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Keith Pi ckford =0ASent: Tue 21/06/2011 12:39 =0ATo: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com =0ASubject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update =0A =0A =0AThe Black Gook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff =0A=0A =0A =0A======================== =========== =0A - =0Aine-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?JabiruEng ine-List =0A======================== =========== =0AMS - =0Ak">http://forums.matronics.com =0A======================== =========== =0Ae - =0A - - - - --Matt Dralle, List Admin. =0At="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A======================== =========== =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update From: Martin Hone Thanks Keith. I just love these words. Goop, gook, stiction. Just so descriptive. Martin On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Keith Pickford wrote: > I visited the Jabiru factory at Bundaberg - Great bunch there - all very > helpful - learnt a lot about the different sealers used in the engine. The > black "Gook" is worth putting on the inlet tubes as any leaks there will > lean out the mixture. > > Cheers > > Keith > > --- On *Wed, 22/6/11, Martin Hone * wrote: > > > From: Martin Hone > Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: J.'s rich #3 cylinder update > To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, 22, June, 2011, 9:09 AM > > Haha, I'm still getting over Keith's comment about it being 'The Black > Gook is Loctite No 2 - Real sticky stuff ' Black Gook ? > > Martin > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Lynn Matteson > > wrote: > > > > > Stiction? Damn, I got's ta get me one of them dik-shun-aries, Clive. : ) > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062 > Temporarily w/Sensenich 55.5 x 46 prop while > Prince prop (64 x 30, P-tip) is in for upgrade > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm) > Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1121 hrs (since > 3-27-2006) > do not archive > > > On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:52 PM, James, Clive R wrote: > > Do you suppose the goop is just used to help slip the pipes in? 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