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Subject: | Re: Liquid Cooled Heads... |
Don,
I am really impressed with the AFR gauge. Whilst it doesn't monitor each
individual cylinder, it does tell you what the engine is doing mixture-wise
.
Unless you have a CHT and EGT probe on *every* cylinder, you are better off
with the AFR and you get immediate response to mixture changes - ideal with
a mixture controlled carb !
Marty
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Don Honabach <don.honabach@pcperfect.com>w
rote:
> Martin,****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for all the great advice! Didn=99t even know about the Air
Fuel Ratio
> Meters =93 did a quick search =93 those are cool and I do lov
e my gadgets <g>!
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks!****
>
> Don****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hone
> *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 2:38 PM
> *To:* jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: JabiruEngine-List: Liquid Cooled Heads...****
>
> ** **
>
> Don,****
>
> ** **
>
> You have a few options regarding a mixture adjusting carb - Aerocarb,
> Ellison TB and Rotec TB. I have used both the Aerocarb and the Rotec TBI
,
> and the Rotec unit is the more sophisticated. If you are running unleade
d
> fuel, you might also like to consider adding a wide-band Air Fuel Ratio
> meter. Makes getting the correct mixture a breeze.****
>
> Also permits running LOP if you are interested in another tin of
> worms.......****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers****
>
> ** **
>
> Martin****
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Don Honabach <don.honabach@pcperfect.com
>
> wrote:****
>
> For what it worth, I have the LED setup on my plane and love it and was
> pretty much essential after seeing the AMP draw of traditional landing
> light(s), strobes, etc. ****
>
> ****
>
> Just thinking out loud ****
>
> ****
>
> One of the things I=99ve been tossing around in the back of my head
is to
> switch out the bing carb. I tend to like to fly at the higher power ratin
gs
> and get taxed heavily with excessive fuel burn rates using the bing carb.
As
> such, going to a more traditional carb where I can adjust the mixture mig
ht
> make sense and would solve the high burn rate issue (assumption here?),
as
> would probably messing with the bing needles if I stuck with a bing carb.
In
> either case though, if I do that, chances are my temps will climb so it i
s a
> bit of a balancing act for sure. I=99m thinking that the LC heads w
ould allow
> me to have the best of both worlds (low fuel burn rates, high power
> settings, low temps) even on a hot day sort of thing****
>
> ****
>
> Don****
>
> ****
>
> P.S. Todd, where are you based in AZ? Any chance over at P19? I thought I
> saw a Titan there the other day. If so, I=99m the red/white Zodie b
y the fuel
> pumps.****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> Hubelbank
> *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 5:41 AM
> *To:* jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: JabiruEngine-List: Liquid Cooled Heads...****
>
> ****
>
> Todd,
> For the record, I replaced all the strobes and position lights with L
ED
> types and reduced the current demand significantly, Now all the lights
> together are an average of about 1 amp. The Jabiru does not have much mar
gin
> but with the LED lights, I believe the load of the water pump could be
> tolerated.
>
> On 07/22/2011 12:24 AM, Todd Bristol wrote: ****
>
> I am also in Phoenix and have a Hyd 3300 on a Titan Tornado and am
> concerned about High Temps and Head Wear. The water cooled heads look go
od
> but are a bit pricey. I am also concerned that the 20 amp Alternator wil
l
> not put out enough current to run the water pump as I already have low
> amperage issues. Does anyone know what our original heads are worth in
> attempt to sell them to offset the cost of the water cooled heads?****
>
> Todd Bristol****
>
> Great Entertainment isn't expensive... It's Priceless!****
>
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>
> Mesa, Arizona****
>
> 480-755-4200****
>
> www.djs4u.com
> www.gameshowsamerica.com
> www.condopenasco.com****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/21/11, Martin Hone <aerobiz1@gmail.com><aerobiz1@gmail.com
>
> * wrote:****
>
>
> From: Martin Hone <aerobiz1@gmail.com> <aerobiz1@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: Liquid Cooled Heads...
> To: jabiruengine-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 4:11 PM****
>
> Hi Don, ****
>
> ****
>
> I have just completed fitting a set of the Rotec Liquid Cooled Heads on a
> J230 that had chronic overheating issues, such that it had to have two he
ads
> reconditioned at less than 100 hrs from new, and again at 200 hrs. I mad
e
> some mods to the carb and induction plenum to try and get better
> distribution, but the LC heads have made a huge difference.****
>
> I have even gone down 2 sizes in main jet (#245) and temps are , if
> anything, a bit on the cool side. Very straightforward to fit and sort o
ut
> the plumbing. Added 16 lbs to the weight, but am looking at ditching the
> muffler and running a pair of 3-1 collectors, which should get about 5-6
lbs
> off.****
>
> ****
>
> We have tried everything else, and it has worked for us.****
>
> ****
>
> Martin****
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Don Honabach <don.honabach@pcperfect.com
<http://us.mc1608.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=don.honabach@pcperfect.com
>>
> wrote:****
>
> Saw an ad for this product today in KitPlanes =93 liquid cooled hea
ds for the
> Jabiru Engines.****
>
> ****
>
> http://www.rotecaerosport.com/product-info/lch/****
>
> ****
>
> I rarely have cooling problems on my 3300A. Evening though I=99m in
Arizona,
> worst case is if the engine gets heat soaked on the ground I have to baby
> the plane to altitude to avoid going over 350F CHTs during our hot summer
> days.****
>
> ****
>
> That said, I know others do and this seems like an interesting product. I
f
> nothing else, I would feel better about =98de-stressing the engine
=99 by running
> it cooler and distributing the heat load evenly which is impossible to do
> with the air cooled/carb setup. ****
>
> ****
>
> Pete, any thoughts on this? ****
>
> ****
>
> Thanks! ****
>
> ****
>
> Don Honabach ****
>
> Tempe, AZ ****
>
> Zodiac 601HDS =93 3300A (~200 Hours) ****
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