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2. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point Crowsfoot Adapter) (Martin Hone)
3. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point Crowsfoot Adapter) (Lynn Matteson)
4. 04:40 PM - Electrical Issue with 3300 (Jeffrey J Paris)
5. 11:19 PM - Re: Re: [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point Crowsfoot Adapter) (James, Clive R)
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| Subject: | RE: [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point |
Crowsfoot Adapter)
As I understand it the top end TBO is 1000 hrs and the 2000 overhaul
involves the whole engine strip.
My 2200a #596 made 1000 hrs and had new heads (+valves and rockers) and
is now approaching 1300 hrs. As most folk know the heads in the 596 era
were made of poor Ally and bent, the seats dropped etc. valves were OK
but prudence suggests chucking them away. I would hope that my new heads
will be good to go another 1000 hrs when I get to 2000 hrs (if me and
the old girl are still together).
I understand there are plenty of 2000+ engines that have passed that
milestone as generally the bottom end is 'rock solid' notwithstanding
flywheel bolts and... and ...and of course through bolts (WTF?).
That is unless you drew a bad ticket in the Jabiru lottery, that also
goes for not making 1000hrs of course.....and that's the shame of it
all. Once the head situation was sorted we should have been able to look
forward to a trouble free engine with small improvements made in
developments as they were tried and proven by Jabiru.
That wasn't the strategy that Jabiru used unfortunately as any reader of
the lists will testify, knee jerk changes that were untried was the way
to go (is it still?). I live in hope that the tickets being handed out
are going to eventually be consistently good ones as I have a soft spot
for the engine, can't imagine why.........
As often said, we don't hear much about long term success stories on the
lists by the nature of the way they work, but it would be nice to hear
lots of folk posting theirs.
Regards, Clive
Jabiru SP 2200
Esqual 3300
From: jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of j. davis
Sent: 02 August 2011 17:06
Subject: [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point Crowsfoot Adapter)
On 08/02/2011 10:44 AM, Pete Krotje wrote:
>
> Consider also the experience and integrity behind them. The Rotec sign
at
> OSH said "Will make TBO". However when asked how many examples had
gone the
> distance to back up that claim - there were none. One wonders about
big
> bright promises with not much behind them.
>
That reminds me of a question I've been wondering about recently:
How many Jabiru engines have 'made TBO', broken down by type?
What exactly does 'make TBO" mean?
Hopefully, Jabiru is not making "big bright promises with not much
behind them" !
Thanks!
--
Regards, J.
- Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
- former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder, CH750 in progress
- see both (and more!) at http://cleco.ca
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| Subject: | Re: RE: [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point |
Crowsfoot Adapter)
It sounds like you have a good, well maintained engine Clive. Re Pete's
comment about Rotec and TBO, given that their radials don't have any of the
issues afflicting Jabs generally, then I would imagine that they are much
more likely to go to TBO. A reason why there may not be any that have gone
that many hours as yet is more to do with the type of aircraft that they ar
e
fitted to. Check the website. The radials are fitted to an amazing variety
of machines, including motorcycles !
Martin
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:32 AM, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>wrote
:
> As I understand it the top end TBO is 1000 hrs and the 2000 overhaul
> involves the whole engine strip.****
>
> ** **
>
> My 2200a #596 made 1000 hrs and had new heads (+valves and rockers) and
is
> now approaching 1300 hrs. As most folk know the heads in the 596 era were
> made of poor Ally and bent, the seats dropped etc. valves were OK but
> prudence suggests chucking them away. I would hope that my new heads will
be
> good to go another 1000 hrs when I get to 2000 hrs (if me and the old gir
l
> are still together).****
>
> ** **
>
> I understand there are plenty of 2000+ engines that have passed that
> milestone as generally the bottom end is =98rock solid=99 not
withstanding
> flywheel bolts and and and of course through bolts (WTF
?). ****
>
> That is unless you drew a bad ticket in the Jabiru lottery, that also goe
s
> for not making 1000hrs of course..and that=99s the shame o
f it all. Once the
> head situation was sorted we should have been able to look forward to a
> trouble free engine with small improvements made in developments as they
> were tried and proven by Jabiru.****
>
> That wasn=99t the strategy that Jabiru used unfortunately as any re
ader of
> the lists will testify, knee jerk changes that were untried was the way t
o
> go (is it still?). I live in hope that the tickets being handed out are
> going to eventually be consistently good ones as I have a soft spot for t
he
> engine, can=99t imagine why****
>
> ** **
>
> As often said, we don=99t hear much about long term success stories
on the
> lists by the nature of the way they work, but it would be nice to hear lo
ts
> of folk posting theirs.****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards, Clive****
>
> Jabiru SP 2200****
>
> Esqual 3300****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *j. davis
> *Sent:* 02 August 2011 17:06
> *To:* jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point Crowsfoot Adapter
)
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> ****
>
> On 08/02/2011 10:44 AM, Pete Krotje wrote:
> >
> > Consider also the experience and integrity behind them. The Rotec sign
at
> > OSH said "Will make TBO". However when asked how many examples had gone
> the
> > distance to back up that claim - there were none. One wonders about big
> > bright promises with not much behind them.
> >
>
> That reminds me of a question I've been wondering about recently:
>
> How many Jabiru engines have 'made TBO', broken down by type?
>
> What exactly does 'make TBO" mean?
>
> Hopefully, Jabiru is not making "big bright promises with not much behind
> them" !
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Regards, J.
>
> - Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb
> - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder, CH750 in progress
> - see both (and more!) at http://cleco.ca
>
> -----------------------------
> J. Davis, M.Sc. (comp sci)
> email: jd at lawsonimaging.ca
> *NIX consulting, SysAdmin
> http://cleco.ca
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| Subject: | Re: RE: [jabiruengines] Speaking of TBO (was12-Point |
Crowsfoot Adapter)
I'm delighted with my JabElecRoteciru engine. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: flying with "Ramcharger" intake manifold...1152 hrs (since
3-27-2006)
On Aug 2, 2011, at 1:32 PM, James, Clive R wrote:
(snip)
> As often said, we dont hear much about long term success stories
> on the lists by the nature of the way they work, but it would be
> nice to hear lots of folk posting theirs.
>
>
> Regards, Clive
>
> Jabiru SP 2200
>
> Esqual 3300
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| Subject: | Electrical Issue with 3300 |
Hey =C2-Pete,
=C2-
On returning from Oshkosh (good to see you guys) I noticed that my battery w
as not charging at the usuasal 14.1 volts, anyways I did my best to lighten
my electrical load and when we landed we did a once over on the engine compa
rtment and did not find anything out of order. =C2-I was able to replace t
he battery (Walmart) and fly home, =C2-I was sort of thinking that my batt
ery from 2007 had bit the dust, however, my new battery discharged as well a
nd did not show 14.1 v in terms a stewady charging state.
=C2-
Any ideas or insight? =C2-I searched the manual on line but didn't find an
ything difinitive, could my regulator be shot or acting up?
=C2-
Thanks,
=C2-
Jeff and Peter Paris 2 Jabs in the nest Zodiac and Europa
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