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1. 05:45 AM - While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown (dwwilt)
2. 07:22 AM - Re: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown (Rob Turk)
3. 07:43 AM - Remove me From your List (japhillipsga@aol.com)
4. 07:45 AM - Re: Remove me From your List (Dennis W. Wilt)
5. 08:19 AM - remove me from the list (japhillipsga@aol.com)
6. 08:44 AM - Re: remove me from the list (Pete Krotje)
7. 08:49 AM - Re: remove me from the list (Rob Turk)
8. 01:33 PM - Re: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown (Dennis W. Wilt)
9. 02:40 PM - Re: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown (Pete Krotje)
10. 02:46 PM - Re: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown (Dennis W. Wilt)
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| Subject: | While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown |
Arion Lightning S/N 132. Stock Jabiru 3300 with hydraulic lifters.
This morning I was going to go fly when during run up, as I was taking the switch
from left to both, the engine "burped". I'll call it a burp, but it really
wan in process of shutting down. I checked left mag again and the engine quit,
back to both and since the prop had not stopped, it came back up. I checked
several times and the left mag position was intermittent. It would be ok and
then it would shut down.
After getting back to the hangar, I pulled the cowl and did not see anything unusual.
I checked the wire from the magneto to the distributor cap and it seemed
to be on Ok, although looser than the right magneto wire. I'll go see if my
playing with the magneto wire did anything positive later this afternoon or
tomorrow morning.
My flying window had closed for the morning, so I came home and decided to send
out this post. Any ideas? Could it be the ignition switch?
Thanks for any ideas out there.
--------
Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown |
Dennis,
When you switch off the left coil (short-circuit the coil tab to ground)
and the engine quits, then there's something wrong with the *right*
coil, not with the left one. Either the right coil itself is failing, or
the right wire is shorting to ground. That could be due to damage to the
wire or because the ignition switch is intermittent.
Rob
On 3/6/2012 2:44 PM, dwwilt wrote:
> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "dwwilt"<dwwilt@aol.com>
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> Arion Lightning S/N 132. Stock Jabiru 3300 with hydraulic lifters.
>
> This morning I was going to go fly when during run up, as I was taking the switch
from left to both, the engine "burped". I'll call it a burp, but it really
wan in process of shutting down. I checked left mag again and the engine quit,
back to both and since the prop had not stopped, it came back up. I checked
several times and the left mag position was intermittent. It would be ok
and then it would shut down.
>
> After getting back to the hangar, I pulled the cowl and did not see anything
unusual. I checked the wire from the magneto to the distributor cap and it seemed
to be on Ok, although looser than the right magneto wire. I'll go see if
my playing with the magneto wire did anything positive later this afternoon or
tomorrow morning.
>
> My flying window had closed for the morning, so I came home and decided to send
out this post. Any ideas? Could it be the ignition switch?
>
> Thanks for any ideas out there.
>
> --------
> Dennis
>
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| Subject: | Remove me From your List |
Please remove my E-mail address from your Jabiruengine list. I no longer ow
n a Jabiru and do not care to hear from those that do. Thank you, Bill Phil
lips
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| Subject: | Re: Remove me From your List |
Bill, you have to remove yourself from the list.
Have a wonderful day,
Dennis
N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
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Sent: Tue, Mar 6, 2012 10:43 am
Subject: JabiruEngine-List: Remove me From your List
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n a Jabiru and do not care to hear from those that do. Thank you, Bill Phil
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| Subject: | remove me from the list |
Remove from the Jabiru list, Thanks, Bill Phillips
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| Subject: | remove me from the list |
Bill,
Follow the directions at the bottom of the list to unsubscribe
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:19 AM
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Remove from the Jabiru list, Thanks, Bill Phillips
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| Subject: | Re: remove me from the list |
You got yourself on the list. You remove yourself as well. Go to the
Matronics site and remove your subscription.
On 3/6/2012 5:18 PM, japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown |
Rob,
When you check the left magneto, the switch shorts the right magneto to gro
und, shutting the right magneto off so you are running on the left magneto
only.
So, when I was trying to run on only the left magneto (right magneto off),
the engine quit. So, in my opinion, I have the possibility of these things
going wrong:
1. The p-lead on the left magneto is intermittently shorting to ground some
where (not obvious, I inspected the wire from the coil to the ignition swit
ch).
2. The ignition switch has a malfunction that is intermittent. (I inspected
the connections to the ignition switch and they are good.)
3. The coil itself is intermittent.
4. The ignition wire from the coil to the distributor cap is intermittent.
5. The distributor cap and/or rotor has a problem.
These are all of the things I can think of that can go wrong here. It is a
simple system.
Have a wonderful day,
Dennis
N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl>
Sent: Tue, Mar 6, 2012 10:22 am
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent s
hutdown
Dennis,
When you switch off the left coil (short-circuit the coil tab to ground)
nd the engine quits, then there's something wrong with the *right*
oil, not with the left one. Either the right coil itself is failing, or
he right wire is shorting to ground. That could be due to damage to the
ire or because the ignition switch is intermittent.
Rob
On 3/6/2012 2:44 PM, dwwilt wrote:
--> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "dwwilt"<dwwilt@aol.com>
Arion Lightning S/N 132. Stock Jabiru 3300 with hydraulic lifters.
This morning I was going to go fly when during run up, as I was taking the
witch from left to both, the engine "burped". I'll call it a burp, but it
eally wan in process of shutting down. I checked left mag again and the en
gine
uit, back to both and since the prop had not stopped, it came back up. I
hecked several times and the left mag position was intermittent. It would
be
k and then it would shut down.
After getting back to the hangar, I pulled the cowl and did not see anythi
ng
nusual. I checked the wire from the magneto to the distributor cap and it
eemed to be on Ok, although looser than the right magneto wire. I'll go se
e if
y playing with the magneto wire did anything positive later this afternoon
or
omorrow morning.
My flying window had closed for the morning, so I came home and decided to
end out this post. Any ideas? Could it be the ignition switch?
Thanks for any ideas out there.
--------
Dennis
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| Subject: | While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown |
Based on our experience over the last 12 years I would look closely at the
ignition switch. The failure rate on the ACS switches is higher than it
should be. Disconnect the P Lead to the left mag and see what happens when
you short out the right during mag check. You'll have to shut fuel off to
stop engine, though, if the left mag is good after all.
Pete
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W.
Wilt
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent
shutdown
Rob,
When you check the left magneto, the switch shorts the right magneto to
ground, shutting the right magneto off so you are running on the left
magneto only.
So, when I was trying to run on only the left magneto (right magneto off),
the engine quit. So, in my opinion, I have the possibility of these things
going wrong:
1. The p-lead on the left magneto is intermittently shorting to ground
somewhere (not obvious, I inspected the wire from the coil to the ignition
switch).
2. The ignition switch has a malfunction that is intermittent. (I inspected
the connections to the ignition switch and they are good.)
3. The coil itself is intermittent.
4. The ignition wire from the coil to the distributor cap is intermittent.
5. The distributor cap and/or rotor has a problem.
These are all of the things I can think of that can go wrong here. It is a
simple system.
Have a wonderful day,
Dennis
N616DW (Arion Lightning <http://www.flylightning.net/> S/N 132)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl>
Sent: Tue, Mar 6, 2012 10:22 am
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent
shutdown
Dennis,
When you switch off the left coil (short-circuit the coil tab to ground)
and the engine quits, then there's something wrong with the *right*
coil, not with the left one. Either the right coil itself is failing, or
the right wire is shorting to ground. That could be due to damage to the
wire or because the ignition switch is intermittent.
Rob
On 3/6/2012 2:44 PM, dwwilt wrote:
> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "dwwilt"<dwwilt@aol.com>
>
> Arion Lightning S/N 132. Stock Jabiru 3300 with hydraulic lifters.
>
> This morning I was going to go fly when during run up, as I was taking the
switch from left to both, the engine "burped". I'll call it a burp, but it
really wan in process of shutting down. I checked left mag again and the
engine
quit, back to both and since the prop had not stopped, it came back up. I
checked several times and the left mag position was intermittent. It would
be
ok and then it would shut down.
>
> After getting back to the hangar, I pulled the cowl and did not see
anything
unusual. I checked the wire from the magneto to the distributor cap and it
seemed to be on Ok, although looser than the right magneto wire. I'll go
see if
my playing with the magneto wire did anything positive later this afternoon
or
tomorrow morning.
>
> My flying window had closed for the morning, so I came home and decided to
send out this post. Any ideas? Could it be the ignition switch?
>
> Thanks for any ideas out there.
>
> --------
> Dennis
>
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| Subject: | Re: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent shutdown |
Thanks Pete, I was hoping someone had seen this problem and could just give
an answer. Have you ever seen a bad coil?
Dennis
N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Krotje <pete@usjabiru.com>
Sent: Tue, Mar 6, 2012 5:40 pm
Subject: RE: JabiruEngine-List: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent s
hutdown
Based on our experience over the last 12 years I would look closely at the
ignition switch. The failure rate on the ACS switches is higher than it sh
ould be. Disconnect the P Lead to the left mag and see what happens when y
ou short out the right during mag check. You=99ll have to shut fuel
off to stop engine, though, if the left mag is good after all.
Pete
From: owner-jabiruengine-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-jabiruengi
ne-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dennis W. Wilt
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent s
hutdown
Rob,
When you check the left magneto, the switch shorts the right magneto to gro
und, shutting the right magneto off so you are running on the left magneto
only.
So, when I was trying to run on only the left magneto (right magneto off),
the engine quit. So, in my opinion, I have the possibility of these things
going wrong:
1. The p-lead on the left magneto is intermittently shorting to ground some
where (not obvious, I inspected the wire from the coil to the ignition swit
ch).
2. The ignition switch has a malfunction that is intermittent. (I inspected
the connections to the ignition switch and they are good.)
3. The coil itself is intermittent.
4. The ignition wire from the coil to the distributor cap is intermittent.
5. The distributor cap and/or rotor has a problem.
These are all of the things I can think of that can go wrong here. It is a
simple system.
Have a wonderful day,
Dennis
N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Turk <matronics@rtist.nl>
Sent: Tue, Mar 6, 2012 10:22 am
Subject: Re: JabiruEngine-List: While Checking the Magnetos, intermittent s
hutdown
Dennis,
When you switch off the left coil (short-circuit the coil tab to ground)
and the engine quits, then there's something wrong with the *right*
coil, not with the left one. Either the right coil itself is failing, or
the right wire is shorting to ground. That could be due to damage to the
wire or because the ignition switch is intermittent.
Rob
On 3/6/2012 2:44 PM, dwwilt wrote:
> --> JabiruEngine-List message posted by: "dwwilt"<dwwilt@aol.com>
>
> Arion Lightning S/N 132. Stock Jabiru 3300 with hydraulic lifters.
>
> This morning I was going to go fly when during run up, as I was taking th
e
switch from left to both, the engine "burped". I'll call it a burp, but it
really wan in process of shutting down. I checked left mag again and the e
ngine
quit, back to both and since the prop had not stopped, it came back up. I
checked several times and the left mag position was intermittent. It would
be
ok and then it would shut down.
>
> After getting back to the hangar, I pulled the cowl and did not see anyth
ing
unusual. I checked the wire from the magneto to the distributor cap and it
seemed to be on Ok, although looser than the right magneto wire. I'll go s
ee if
my playing with the magneto wire did anything positive later this afternoon
or
tomorrow morning.
>
> My flying window had closed for the morning, so I came home and decided t
o
send out this post. Any ideas? Could it be the ignition switch?
>
> Thanks for any ideas out there.
>
> --------
> Dennis
>
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